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    New to Bikes

    I'm David Davis 25 yr old, just about to buy my first motorcycle, hopefully I'll be picking it up this weekend...
    I'm looking at a 1982 KZ440 to tear down and create my own Cafe bike.

    I've always liked the naked design of Cafe Racers. I have close to no experience with motorcycles,
    but am a very quick learner and have always tinkered with all sorts of things.
    I've been doing a lot of research, and I think I finally have some sort of idea of what I'm going to be doing with this project.

    I'm sure I'll be asking tons of questions, and any help would be much appreciated.

    For now, this is my bike... (which I also custom built myself)



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    Run the opposite direction from that kz440.

    Why do you want to skip to flying before you can even walk?
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    Run the opposite direction from that kz440.

    Why do you want to skip to flying before you can even walk?
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    A tool is just an opportunity with a handle
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    Making a cafe from a kz440 is not done very easily.

    However, I think they are great bikes. I ride the one I built my friend like a maniac. I catch maybe two feet of air on speed bumps at 50mph.
    http://quiterandom.hubpages.com/hub/...sic-motorcycle How to buy a used bike
    http://quiterandom.hubpages.com/hub/...the-Cafe-Racer How to build a cafe racer

    It's like a Machiavellian 4-volume trilogy based on Hamlet senza misura with an ego-maniacal downs syndrome kid reading from a Rube Goldeberg-esque kindle.

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    Making a cafe from a kz440 is not done very easily.

    However, I think they are great bikes. I ride the one I built my friend like a maniac. I catch maybe two feet of air on speed bumps at 50mph.
    http://quiterandom.hubpages.com/hub/...sic-motorcycle How to buy a used bike
    http://quiterandom.hubpages.com/hub/...the-Cafe-Racer How to build a cafe racer

    It's like a Machiavellian 4-volume trilogy based on Hamlet senza misura with an ego-maniacal downs syndrome kid reading from a Rube Goldeberg-esque kindle.

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    for your first bike - get something that is newish, reliable, and well maintained. Learn to ride motorbikes. Spend a year doing it. After that re-evaluate your goals of wanting a cafe bike.

    if done right, a cafe bike is not a beginners bike, the handling is twitchy and unforgiving and the riding position promotes bad riding habits.

    I personally don't like the kz440, not because it is a bad bike, but because it is heavy and all of them are that awful LTD model (some with 16" rear wheel). Lot of work to just get it to the handling prowess of the less powerful kz400. Also no aftermarket for them making it a real custom deal as in you will need to make everything fit, nothing just bolts on.
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    for your first bike - get something that is newish, reliable, and well maintained. Learn to ride motorbikes. Spend a year doing it. After that re-evaluate your goals of wanting a cafe bike.

    if done right, a cafe bike is not a beginners bike, the handling is twitchy and unforgiving and the riding position promotes bad riding habits.

    I personally don't like the kz440, not because it is a bad bike, but because it is heavy and all of them are that awful LTD model (some with 16" rear wheel). Lot of work to just get it to the handling prowess of the less powerful kz400. Also no aftermarket for them making it a real custom deal as in you will need to make everything fit, nothing just bolts on.
    Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better.
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    Thats why you cut everything off instead of bolting shit on.

    Again, terrible candidate for a cafe, though.
    http://quiterandom.hubpages.com/hub/...sic-motorcycle How to buy a used bike
    http://quiterandom.hubpages.com/hub/...the-Cafe-Racer How to build a cafe racer

    It's like a Machiavellian 4-volume trilogy based on Hamlet senza misura with an ego-maniacal downs syndrome kid reading from a Rube Goldeberg-esque kindle.

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    Thats why you cut everything off instead of bolting shit on.

    Again, terrible candidate for a cafe, though.
    http://quiterandom.hubpages.com/hub/...sic-motorcycle How to buy a used bike
    http://quiterandom.hubpages.com/hub/...the-Cafe-Racer How to build a cafe racer

    It's like a Machiavellian 4-volume trilogy based on Hamlet senza misura with an ego-maniacal downs syndrome kid reading from a Rube Goldeberg-esque kindle.

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    Also, not sure how less than 390lbs dry is 'heavy'.

    Granted, its 50lbs more than a cb350, but the 440 makes quite a bit more power everywhere.
    http://quiterandom.hubpages.com/hub/...sic-motorcycle How to buy a used bike
    http://quiterandom.hubpages.com/hub/...the-Cafe-Racer How to build a cafe racer

    It's like a Machiavellian 4-volume trilogy based on Hamlet senza misura with an ego-maniacal downs syndrome kid reading from a Rube Goldeberg-esque kindle.

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