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    Wasn't someone making stormtrooper styled motorcycle helmets? anybody know if they are safe? and how much? anybody got a link?
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    I gotcha.....effing street signs! Tough to maintain one's cool image after franging off a stop sign...

    Real honest to god career stuffing heat for your choice of helmet art? Damn...that sucks, but I can certainly see your reasoning.

    20 years with one helmet...yeesh, that might be a bit....umm...aromatic? I lucked into the deal on my latest Arai, but they ARE spendy as hell.
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    Not that anyone cares, much less agrees, but I'm with the 'puffed up women' on the helmet. I find the whole woman-as-object/something-to-be-looked-at (instead of someONE that can look back)/pin-up thing as degrading to women in concept as porn in general. It's offensive, and not just to women.

    Geeto, don't object to me voicing it since you really don't care what I think anyway: If a person walked past me in the hall or on the street holding that, I would think they were a juvenile pig. If I was their superior, yeah, it would affect my decisions regarding their promotion, etc. On the other end of the spectrum, I once had a boss who was openly sexist and could never bring myself to respect him. Did it affect the quality of my work at times? I'm sure of it. Respect is a two-way street.

    That's just me. Now go back to talking about helmets.

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    For the record, I did not buy the helmet.

    Second I do not regard the legitimate art of pinup by legitimate artists (e.g. Varga) as porn, degrading to women, or openly offensive. That being said my helmet does not qualify as high art and since I won it at a slot machine in Vegas and did not actually buy it I was always kinda tickled by how gaudy and offensive it was. Most who know me think the whole thing is funny.

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    For the record, I did not buy the helmet.

    Second I do not regard the legitimate art of pinup by legitimate artists (e.g. Varga) as porn, degrading to women, or openly offensive. That being said my helmet does not qualify as high art and since I won it at a slot machine in Vegas and did not actually buy it I was always kinda tickled by how gaudy and offensive it was. Most who know me think the whole thing is funny.

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    I'm not jumping to conclusions about you as a person or anything. I'm fully aware that we don't know each other. In fact, It seems that we are at least partially in agreement.

    Really it's just that sometimes a lot of sexist smack gets talked around here, and it always bothers me. Just saw this as a chance to vocalize it.


    P.S. HOLY CRAP! I just noticed there is a little draggable 'tab' in the lower, righthand corner of the quick reply text box. Is it a new Firefox 4 thing, or have I just not noticed? Quick reply just became even more awesome.

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    I'm not jumping to conclusions about you as a person or anything. I'm fully aware that we don't know each other. In fact, It seems that we are at least partially in agreement.

    Really it's just that sometimes a lot of sexist smack gets talked around here, and it always bothers me. Just saw this as a chance to vocalize it.


    P.S. HOLY CRAP! I just noticed there is a little draggable 'tab' in the lower, righthand corner of the quick reply text box. Is it a new Firefox 4 thing, or have I just not noticed? Quick reply just became even more awesome.

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    Being an art school dropout myself (have I ever mentioned I dropped out of art school?), I have to cast my vote for the plain white hemet/artwork contest. In fact, I'm surprised nobody has brought this up yet:


    Or, better yet, maybe ship the plain helmet to me, and I'll let the little Ramones go at it with the Sharpies! I had a truck like that once.


    As far as nekkid chicks as objets d'art... they are. Sorry fellas, but look thru any art history book, and what you'll see most are mostly nude chicks (some of them pretty darn fat, during the Romantic & baroque periods). I understand your dilemma Geet, being a professional & all, but anyone who's ever been the only male employee in a shop full of women knows they look at men the same way... and they talk about sex, etc. just like guys do (which makes it hypocrisy, as far as I'm concerned). Sexism aside, The human body, male of female, is one of the most visually appealing shapes in nature, which is one of the reasons it's depicted so often in art. It is possible to view a naked body w/o "boning up", so to speak. I can tell you from my own personal experience, that female figures are much more entertaining to draw than males; It has to do with curvature... for me, anyway.

    Ok, perhaps the lid may not be in the best taste, but I can still be sad to see it go.
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    Being an art school dropout myself (have I ever mentioned I dropped out of art school?), I have to cast my vote for the plain white hemet/artwork contest. In fact, I'm surprised nobody has brought this up yet:


    Or, better yet, maybe ship the plain helmet to me, and I'll let the little Ramones go at it with the Sharpies! I had a truck like that once.


    As far as nekkid chicks as objets d'art... they are. Sorry fellas, but look thru any art history book, and what you'll see most are mostly nude chicks (some of them pretty darn fat, during the Romantic & baroque periods). I understand your dilemma Geet, being a professional & all, but anyone who's ever been the only male employee in a shop full of women knows they look at men the same way... and they talk about sex, etc. just like guys do (which makes it hypocrisy, as far as I'm concerned). Sexism aside, The human body, male of female, is one of the most visually appealing shapes in nature, which is one of the reasons it's depicted so often in art. It is possible to view a naked body w/o "boning up", so to speak. I can tell you from my own personal experience, that female figures are much more entertaining to draw than males; It has to do with curvature... for me, anyway.

    Ok, perhaps the lid may not be in the best taste, but I can still be sad to see it go.
    Many a man who falls in love with a dimple makes the mistake of marrying the whole girl. - Evan Esar

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    Sorry - I think you got it backwards: Dragons are NOT ok. Battle Axes NOT ok. Half nekkid women are preferred.

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