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    quote:Originally posted by sign216

    quote:Originally posted by Geeto67

    I had a 106. it literally has no more usefulness than a moped.
    Ouch! That hurts.

    I'm selling a Batavus moped, the pride of the Netherlands. 49cc 2t with a top speed of 28-30mph if everything is favorable.

    The Gilera 106 should be capable of 40 mph, which may not be a huge leap in performance.

    It is actually a leap backwards in performance. Your batavus moped is a two stroke, where as the 106ss is a four stroke. So while you moped my only do 30mph, it gets to 30 mph a lot quicker. By modern standards the gilera MAY hit 40 but it will get there with all the fury of being squeezed from a tube of toothpaste.

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    Geeto,

    Can't talk for Joe but little bikes are cool. I can carry 4 with my minivan. They are easy to get in and out of my basement workshop. One clyinder is easy to work on and figure out. You can fit 2 in the floor space of one big bike. They have plenty of pop for in city and quiet country roads.

    I disagree with the performance difference you mentioned. I had a Batavus VA and its 0-30 was a lot slower than my Honda 50 c100.

    Convince Joe he NEEDS an Aermacchi 250 or a Benelli 125 two stroke. I have both for sale at the moment.

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    ken,

    your getting a gilera or a batavus?

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    I'm getting this for my son, as I coax him into motorcycling. Actually, we like fixing bikes more than riding.
    The Batavus moped was a good start; no gears, 49cc was easy for him to kick start, and he could move the lightweight machine around.

    Now I'm stepping up the game to something a little bigger with a real transmission. Hence, a Sears 106 or a Monza Jr 160 would be good.
    I'm avoiding 2 cycles because I like the dedicated lubrication of a 4T, and I feel that the Italians never gave 2Ts the quality construction that they put into 4T bikes. For them, 2 cycles bikes were "cheap."

    Geeto, I've got "grown up motorcycles." Well, do a 500cc and 750cc count? I remember when a 750 was a big bike. I am shocked that's now considered a learner's size.

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    I currently own a sears 106ss and i like it alot, like others have said its isnt a speed racer but putts around town with no problems. The styling is simple but the bike turns heads everywhere i ride it. I removed the giant rear fender which made it look a little too long for my taste, and made a smaller one out of sheet metal. Performance wise it tops out around 45-50mph dependng on the conditions, ive owned several mopeds including a modded 70cc puch magnum and the gilera would have beat them all in a drag race to 35-40 because of the 4 speed gear box. As a bike for your son i would think it would be great, super easy to work on and very simple to operate. I wouldnt want it as my only bike though buts thats why i own a 450 as well; but it would make a great first/ learning vintage bike.

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    Texy,
    A Gilera. I am trading Hahnda some Honda singles for a runner. There is a thread on here somewhere.
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    Ken,

    Wasn't that a Garelli Rex you are getting from hahnda?

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    quote:Originally posted by santander

    I currently own a sears 106ss and i like it alot, like others have said its isnt a speed racer but putts around town with no problems. The styling is simple but the bike turns heads everywhere i ride it. I removed the giant rear fender which made it look a little too long for my taste, and made a smaller one out of sheet metal. Performance wise it tops out around 45-50mph dependng on the conditions, ive owned several mopeds including a modded 70cc puch magnum and the gilera would have beat them all in a drag race to 35-40 because of the 4 speed gear box. As a bike for your son i would think it would be great, super easy to work on and very simple to operate. I wouldnt want it as my only bike though buts thats why i own a 450 as well; but it would make a great first/ learning vintage bike.
    Thank you for the thoughtful reply. 45 mph is fine performance for a 106cc bike, and we can live with that for town/rural use.

    Funny how some people think that's as slow as a glacier. It's all perspective. The Batavus feels fine at 25 mph, until other cars start passing you. Then it get's embarrassing.

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    quote:Originally posted by JackC

    Ken,

    Wasn't that a Garelli Rex you are getting from hahnda?

    Jack

    Oh Yeah, that's right. I knew it was one of those little Italian 4 stroke G things. Regardless, they are all about the same and I am looking forward to getting it for a pit bike. I am not going to do anything to lose the patina that it comes with.
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    that Garelli is a nice little bike. I have only seen one other, for sale at both mid o and rhinebeck ( same bike same seller-,$1200 asking it was nice).

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