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    I think now days people have thinner skin. there is that mentality of "I dont like that so we must ban it" I like the saying "Just because you are offended, that does not mean you are right"
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    Quote Originally Posted by 83XLX View Post
    My dad was in the 104th Infantry in Europe in WWII, fighting Germans. He never had a problem with our play games, but that's not the same as a holocaust survivor. I think people are more prone to "being offended" than they used to be, and the purpose of swastikas and SS emblems on motorcycles (and their riders) is mainly to shock the general public and look like a [email protected]$$. That said, I find it amusing that many of the Patriot Guard riders sport iron crosses on their vests and wear helmets patterned after the German WWII helmet...
    Danny Lyons documented the outlaw culture in the Bikeriders very well. They used to do all sorts of things to "freak out the squares" and be offensive and that was kind of the point. I don't know if looking like a badass is the goal when you see two unwashed hariy 60's bikers french kissing in public. I don't even know if outlaw culture is the same now as it used to be but image wise it doesn't look that way.

    I don't even think I am capable of fathoming the levels of irony that is a group of people who oppose hate speech and intolerance at government functions by dressing up in the uniform of fascist regimes. more layers than a 7 layer dip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaguar View Post
    The issue now is not that more people are offended. It is that they feel they can do something about it, or worse demand to not be offended at all.
    nothing changed about the attitude, just the megaphone got bigger.

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    I think now days people have thinner skin. there is that mentality of "I dont like that so we must ban it" I like the saying "Just because you are offended, that does not mean you are right"
    Actually quite the opposite. I don't think my parent's or grandparent's generation would have tolerated "worse than Hitler" as a colloquial analogy for a terrible person, but here we are and it happens so much there is actually an internet rule about it (godwin's law). As the generations that experienced it first hand die off, subsequent generations are less personally sensitive about it but more vocal about it in the abstract.
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    Free brain bucket painted like the flag? I'd call that a win. Now you just need a fat boy with giant ape hangers and your set

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeto67 View Post
    Actually quite the opposite. I don't think my parent's or grandparent's generation would have tolerated "worse than Hitler" as a colloquial analogy for a terrible person, but here we are and it happens so much there is actually an internet rule about it (godwin's law). As the generations that experienced it first hand die off, subsequent generations are less personally sensitive about it but more vocal about it in the abstract.
    Fair point
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    um, that particular symbol predates almost everything we can fathom :| It's all in the presentation and interpretation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrialsRider View Post
    um, that particular symbol predates almost everything we can fathom :| It's all in the presentation and interpretation.
    No one looks at that currently and sees anything other than a hate symbol. Historically it's most recent symbolism resides with Nazi Germany, and there's no erasing that. The same goes for a rainbow flag, it's been assigned a current meaning whether you like it or not. Not that I hate the rainbow flag or anything.

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    And I would totally ride a rainbow theme bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrialsRider View Post
    um, that particular symbol predates almost everything we can fathom :| It's all in the presentation and interpretation.
    Valid point. But it reminds me of a joke. Something about a guy who does all kinds of amazing things, but then one day he does one really gross thing and is stuck with that nick name for life.

    Technically the swastika is not the "same" because it sits on an angle instead of flat. but no one cares about details
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ews View Post
    Valid point. But it reminds me of a joke. Something about a guy who does all kinds of amazing things, but then one day he does one really gross thing and is stuck with that nick name for life.

    Technically the swastika is not the "same" because it sits on an angle instead of flat. but no one cares about details
    Would that be the bridge builder saying: "Build 100 bridges, suck one dick, you won't be remembered as a bridge builder."
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    How many variations of that joke do you think there are? I always heard it as "....but you fuck one goat..."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeto67 View Post
    How many variations of that joke do you think there are? I always heard it as "....but you fuck one goat..."
    I suppose as many as you can negatively come up with. The guy who built my XR was a goat fucker and had sex with his own daughter, but I don't hold that against him.
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