Have you guys seen this video yet? Insane!!
Have you guys seen this video yet? Insane!!
Some of those NYC sport bike clubs are not to be fucked with. Too bad the vid cut off just when it got good (i.e. when they were going to drag the guy out of the car and beat the shit out of him). The RR driver was already in a lot of trouble - if you watch early on in the vid he taps one of the guys and that is what causes the initial stop. Granted the dude was in his lane and being a jackass on a bike to being with. However, leaving the scene of an accident is a pretty serious offense in NY I would have stopped, called the cops and locked myself in the car till they got there. If you notice more and more people start joining the group - they have friends and cell phones and it wasn't hard for them to get a lot of people worked up for blood.
but yeah I agree with Tex's assessment - lame.
Edit: All the new sources that link to this video say 1 person was killed but that is untrue: NYPD said that no one died in the incident and that the only person injured was the driver of the Range Rover
i can't fault the driver for fleeing. fuck those asshole biker clubs. they give motorcyclists a bad name with their antics. the driver apparently had his family with him....and when those douche bags were smashing both front and back windows his son was in a car seat.
Shocking video of Range Rover crashing through bikers after they surround the vehicle during annual street ride | Mail Online
fuk those diklik "bikers" ! they are just a bunch of attention needy faggots and they were asking for trouble
I will say this - I LOVE reading this post on other forums because there is always one nutbag who advocates how carry and conceal laws would have saved this guy in this situation. What the suggester fails to comprehend is that were they allowed to carry and conceal in NY most of those dipshits in the MC club would have guns as well - so rather than it be a situation you could say one man carrying and saving his family would really turn out to be gunfight at the OK corral where a family dies.
Seriously - they go to great lengths to make the argument and it is a stupid argument. So far VWVortex leads the way in douchebaggery and nonsense.
Fuck the motorcycles in the vid.
What a disaster.
Will we ever know what really happened before the video started? I saw the RR tap the bike in the rear and in most cases this type "rear end" accident would be the fault of the person in the rear. But not when someone makes an unsafe lane change and not leaving a safe distance between them and other traffic and then the traffic in front brakes and there is no longer a safe distance to stop in time. No one knows what was said to the driver of the RR by the biker. Then when they get him stopped the first time and surround him and the dog pack mentality takes over the RR driver did exactly the right thing and that is to get the hell out of the life threatening situation, drive to the nearest police station while calling 911. I see the bikers being 99% wrong in this video. Gets me crazy when I see in the movies bikers messing with cars. It's battle in real life the biker would never win, they would get run over every time.
After reading the link I'm glad to see that almost every one sided with RR and not the bikers. The bike ride is now banned by police.
Edit: it says it was banned by NYC not the police.
Those types of rides think they own the road and constantly try and impede the flow of car traffic so they can ride in what ever stupid fashion they feel they want.
Bunch of dick bag criminals.
I'm sure they have something on the books that prevents large public gatherings without a permit.
I'm surprised you keep defending the bikers in this incidence Geeto. I don't see any of the options you say should have been done as viable in this case.
My understanding of the incident is that the RR driver DID pull over when he rear ended the biker. When he was pulled over, some of the bikers started smashing his car, at which point I assume he panicked and gunned it the hell out of there.
I can well feel for the rover driver feeling scared sh**less. It's unclear if he would have stopped after the first accident if the bikers would not have kicked his ass - I'm sure that was his primary motive for leaving the scene the first time. There was no reason for the mc riders taking over the entire road - they should of had at least one lane open for cars to pass or get around the group. This whole incident could have been avoided by the motorcycle riders. I also disagree with the motorcycle guys beating on the car (and assuming kicking the guys ass) after they got him stopped.
We have all had incidents where a car either came close or directly cut us off - kicking in the car door is not the correct response - getting the license plate and reporting it would have been the correct response. That's my take..
Bikers caused the issue, no way around it.
I'm not defending the bikers. I think everybody here acted poorly. I fully agree the dipshit bikers started whatever "it" was. Again - just call cops, wait, and they sort it out. I'm sure if we wait this out there will be more details that come forward.
NYC banning something is something the city says when they want to make people feel at ease - there isn't any real legal ground to ban a ride like that, I don't think rides like that are legal to being with. "Banning" is NYC speak for "More motorcycle checkpoints".
I think it's putting to much faith in the LEOs to just wait on the side of the road.
The pack was getting more and mo restless after the film starts, that's why the RR left.
Normally yes, the two people involved in the MVA should stop and wait for the LEO.
But when a pack of animals feels they each have been offended and the need to avenge the wrong it all goes down hill.
from what I saw the "pack" kept riding after the first MVA. Most of them didn't know what was going on or didn't look like they wanted to get caught up in nonsense. Nothing gives them a cohesive mission and a taste for blood like running over a motorcycle.
Shades of Road Warrior.
Blame or not. Fines or not. We'll probably see more GoPros used, more videos uploaded, and a general escalation from both sides.
End result will NOT be more driver education for motor vehicle operators. Most likely WILL BE more scrutiny of all motorcyclists and additional laws against the motorcycling community.
Fail. Fail. And more Fail.
I dunno - a go pro can be a good thing. Remember the off duty LEO who drew his gun on a motorcyclist? Did more good than harm in that case.
I'm ignorant, what's a "LEO"
GoPro's keep everyone honest. In this case I bet no video would have left the RR more at fault.
Googled it; Law Enforcment Officer
I am from a rural area. I find more use for a rock crawler bumper in the city than in the country. Even the dumbest guy can add up what will happen when that winch and brushgaurd makes contact. Of course I would also think that having different color sheetmetal on the right front would discourage guys from cutting me off and trying to make a hole in 80mph freeway traffic but I digress....
My take is the biker brake checked the range rover and got his bluff called. I would have stopped, called 911. If the bikers escalated, I would have told dispatch I was leaving due to hostility in the area. When you call its recorded from that point forward. And I would have kept a running dialog of what was happening around me. I seriously doubt you would be charged with a leaving the scene if you are telling dispatch the guy's friends are bashing my car and threatening me and my family.
The benefits of NYC or any metropolis have never outweighed the downsides (edit: FOR ME and me alone!). I refuse to go to New York as a state due to their politics (a discussion of which doesn't really have a place here IMHO so I will leave it at that). I appreciate art, fine dining, night life, and the tons of other awesome things there. But the idiot per square meter ratio is way too high. The city isn't healthy for me, and I am not healthy for it so I stay away as much as possible.
LEO - Law Enforcement Officer
Well I dated a girl from upstate NY and she was quite nonconservative in the sack....and on the bleachers...and in the car....and on the bike.....and on the porch....and by the lake....and at my parents house with them in the next room.... Still grin thinking about her ;);););)
I didn't know this just happened this weekend. It is coming on my local news now.
Don't know why this is quoting Raven's reply, I clicked on reply to the thread.
Typical sensationalism news, the pre-clip is showing it as a road rage incident by the RR. They did tell more details taking some blame off the RR.
Call me racist if you will but I just noticed most of the bikers involved were black.
More details have come in. One rider got a broken leg. The RR family was Asian and the driver was pulled out, beaten and cut in the face and chest with a knife. They say many of the bikes involved had no license plates and caused chaos in Time Square after arriving there where 15 of the bikers were arrested.
they should count themselves lucky the guy in the RR hadn't watched one too many action films and realised he was driving a 4k guided missile.
on a side note. I wonder if using a range rover in self defense falls under GA's stand your ground laws?
All of this because a biker got bumped by his own intentional actions.
It'll be interesting to follow all the lawsuits that come out of this incident.
i dunno....i dont know many folks who drive range rovers and carry a gun. I'm sure there are exceptions....
i wonder if i was a carjacking of sorts until his friends ruined it. guy on bike brake checks....guy in range rover bumps th ebike. guy on bike offers to "make it go away" in exchange for cash.....
Video's been removed. Shame I missed it.
if you ever want to see intimidation and absolute thug behavior - go videotape an officer during a traffic stop.
this is one of my favorite websites but I caution you - if you read too much you'll end up paranoid thinking we live in a 1984 style police state:
Photography is Not a Crime: PINAC | Photography is Not a Crime
here's a quote from the stuntbutt page:
"...People become community because people like that are one in few and fuck that asshole. No forgiveness for the person. My heart pumped a thousand times faster than ever before. This video is tragic God Bless America I love you. And my heart will forever be with those riders."
I mean what the fuck... Bless 'merica all ya want but don't fuck with Quang and his Rangy.