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    So, my original speedo took a crap the last time out. The needle broke in half and the stub just started pointing at whatever the heck it wanted to.
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    I thought about getting a nice Kosco one or similar, but at around $300 for the ones I would want, it just didn't make sense. All I need is a somewhat accurate tach and a speed signal. I found this universal gauge on Amazon for around $30.
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    It comes with the speed pickup and magnets to be mounted on the wheels. The connectors are OEM style, but only come with the male plugs. I bought connectors from Cycle Terminal and ordered a Molex style crimper from Amazon to make the correct crimps on the pins. (More on that later when I get to the wiring).

    First order is to get the brackets made. I started with a piece of cardboard and some 16 gauge steel sheet metal for the gauge mount:
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    Mock it up and get my correct shape:
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    Then I start cutting with tin snips, a cut off wheel and a dremmel to get it where I need it. Drilled the bolt holes, then used my bench grinder and wire wheel to buff smooth the edges:
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    And here it is...
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    Painted black and on the bike:
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    Last edited by 8ball; 07-31-2017 at 04:37 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roccitycafe View Post
    .... same thing with furniture, it doesn't have to be straight or not wobble, or keep thing from rolling off it, or not collapse when sat upon, it's personal taste man... if I want a dining room set that endangers the life of my dinner party guests, then it doesn't need second hand approval

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    Next Was to mount the magnets to the wheels somewhere. I chose to use the rotor bolts, and fabricate brackets that went between two rotor bolts. I used the same method as before using a cardboard template, only I used thinner 18 gauge sheet metal for these. I had the old single rotor that was originally on this bike as a mock up.
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    Actually mounted on the wheel. (They need just a little more trimming so the lock tabs would still lock on the bolt heads)
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    Quote Originally Posted by roccitycafe View Post
    .... same thing with furniture, it doesn't have to be straight or not wobble, or keep thing from rolling off it, or not collapse when sat upon, it's personal taste man... if I want a dining room set that endangers the life of my dinner party guests, then it doesn't need second hand approval

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    The most complicated bracket was the speed sensor bracket.

    I bent and attached the upper part of the bracket to the caliper bolt:
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    Marked the shape and location for the lower part of the bracket where it will go around the axle/speedo drive spacer:
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    Rough cut:
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    Located the hole for the sensor and painted it:
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    Mounted up:
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    I am in the process of wiring it up. It would be much faster, but I like to try to make things as OEM looking as possible..... No butt splices for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roccitycafe View Post
    .... same thing with furniture, it doesn't have to be straight or not wobble, or keep thing from rolling off it, or not collapse when sat upon, it's personal taste man... if I want a dining room set that endangers the life of my dinner party guests, then it doesn't need second hand approval

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    Good for you for making it work.

    Mine never worked that good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knappyfeet View Post
    Good for you for making it work.

    Mine never worked that good.
    Yeah well....we'll see how well it works. I haven't finished the wiring, yet. From what I can tell, the most troublesome issue is the tach signal. Hooking it up to the coils seems to be too much for it, according to my research. I may try experimenting with connections at the Dyna Ignition, but more than likely, I will use an inductive loop around a spark plug wire, and heat shrink it to the plug wire. As I said, we'll see....
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    Quote Originally Posted by roccitycafe View Post
    .... same thing with furniture, it doesn't have to be straight or not wobble, or keep thing from rolling off it, or not collapse when sat upon, it's personal taste man... if I want a dining room set that endangers the life of my dinner party guests, then it doesn't need second hand approval

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8ball View Post
    Does yours actually have the CFMoto brand name on the face? All the ones I found on Ebay said "DSP SYS" in that location.

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    No. Mine says DSP SYS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roccitycafe View Post
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    Having trouble with the tach signal, at this point. It is designed to connect to a pulse generator signal to an ECU, not a points type ignition system. And to make matters worse, I have a DynaS system on mine, so I am working through that. This may take a bit.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by roccitycafe View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by 8ball View Post
    Having trouble with the tach signal, at this point. It is designed to connect to a pulse generator signal to an ECU, not a points type ignition system. And to make matters worse, I have a DynaS system on mine, so I am working through that. This may take a bit.....
    Did you ever get the tach working for this unit?

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    There are a couple clip on inductive devices that can pick up signal on the coil wire instead of plug wire.

    Ive used it before on a canbus bmw where the tach signal is electronically buried in a single communication wire between the ecu and dash.

    Ill look for it if anyone is interested.

    Edit- https://www.msdperformance.com/produ...ers/parts/8918
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