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This is a discussion on Suzuki Intruder VS 1400 within the Project Builds forums, part of the Caferacer.net Forums category; Originally Posted by CaTacL1sm I guess the question should be: what are the max forces (to the point of failure) that the mounting points are ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaTacL1sm View Post
    I guess the question should be: what are the max forces (to the point of failure) that the mounting points are able to withstand under the new force vectors? After that you'd need to figure out the max forces exerted by the new setup, and determine if you are under an acceptable safety margin.

    that's not even factoring in the effects of those forces over time though.
    While one may be weaker than the other, the weaker one may be sufficient for the life of the application.
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    Quote Originally Posted by o1marc View Post
    The zip ties are in compression so they should be okay. You should swap them for the stronger Green zip ties though.

    The ones from NAPA or Walmart?

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    Quote Originally Posted by K9Swine View Post
    The ones from NAPA or Walmart?
    Source doesn't matter, as long as they're green. They are not only stronger but gain 7hp each.
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    Quote Originally Posted by o1marc View Post
    Source doesn't matter, as long as they're green. They are not only stronger but gain 7hp each.
    Green are a good choice. the red ones give you 12HP but they're really fragile; you need to replace them every 2000 miles.

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    Thanks for all the replies, 'changes like this need to be considered' is an understatement. I'm going from a 295mm disc to a 320mm disc, so the braking force is moved 12.5 mm up the leg, increasing the load on the top mounting point and decreasing the load on the bottom, even perhaps changing it from compression to tension. One thing for sure, understanding the forces is complex. Another thing for sure is the closer I can get the caliper to the fork the better. For example, consider the forces involved if the caliper was mounted at the bottom of the disc, the mind boggles.
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    Just make a strong enough adaptor plate and you'll be fine...


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    Quote Originally Posted by hillsy View Post
    Just make a strong enough adaptor plate and you'll be fine...

    Thanks Hillsys, this photo gives me confidence. I've got another couple of calipers. I like this one, but it's pretty light weight, the mounting holes are only 8mm. But that should be OK, the forces at those points have not changed.
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    And then there is this one, I think it would be OK too.
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    The man also had a 6 piston caliper, but I dismissed it without really considering it. But bugger it, I will see what it looks like, it could be awesome.
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    You'll be having to use an adaptor plate, so really the holes lining up (or even being that close) is a non issue. It's actually probably better that they don't line up - that way you won't have the holes on the same plane so you'll have more metal between the holes if you know what I mean.
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    I think the 6 pot is a goer. I will use the little Tokico for the other bike. I'm off to the scrap metal man for some plate for the adaptors.
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    I had the same issue mounting Tokico calipers to mine. I was fortunate in that the lower legs on a triumph are steel so it only required a single bracket made and welded on. In your case just put the caliper on the rotor where you want it and pressurize it to hold it in place while you use a piece of card board to mark your 4 hole locations. It's a piece of cake from there making a bracket and spacers.



    My calipers are Tokicos that I shaved the name off and put the Triumph logo on them. I was going to use the same 6 pot caliper you have, but they are too wide on the backside and would have hit the spokes.
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