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    you can reflash the ecu to disable the immo function. the immo, which is in the dash, wants to see the correct code from the key. if it doesn't, it doesn't send the code to the ecu to say it can start. if you disable the immo function in the ecu file, the ecu simply ignores the immo and activates the start function when the button is pushed. then you get a key cut with the correct mechanical code and away you go. the immo light on the dash will still act like it has the shits (because it does), often goes out when you open the throttle while running.

    if you disable the immo function in the ecu file, you can also run it without a dash or with any sort of aftermarket dash, and any key.

    i don't know if anyone can make keys to suit a dash (immo) with the dash only. maybe they can, i don't get into that. there are people around who specialise in working with the dashes.

    guzzidiag allows you to read the eeprom as well, which is where the updateable stuff - idle trim and immo code - is stored, but i've never played with it to know what you can do. if you could virginise the ecu it'd work in another bike with the original immo and key, but not if you don't have an original key.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brad black View Post
    you can reflash the ecu to disable the immo function. the immo, which is in the dash, wants to see the correct code from the key. if it doesn't, it doesn't send the code to the ecu to say it can start. if you disable the immo function in the ecu file, the ecu simply ignores the immo and activates the start function when the button is pushed. then you get a key cut with the correct mechanical code and away you go. the immo light on the dash will still act like it has the shits (because it does), often goes out when you open the throttle while running.

    if you disable the immo function in the ecu file, you can also run it without a dash or with any sort of aftermarket dash, and any key.

    i don't know if anyone can make keys to suit a dash (immo) with the dash only. maybe they can, i don't get into that. there are people around who specialise in working with the dashes.

    guzzidiag allows you to read the eeprom as well, which is where the updateable stuff - idle trim and immo code - is stored, but i've never played with it to know what you can do. if you could virginise the ecu it'd work in another bike with the original immo and key, but not if you don't have an original key.
    Thanks for the info. We have access to super geek and a top notch locksmith so hopefully I'll soon be able to tell you all it will do.

    With the fires, I hope all is well with you and yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrialsRider View Post
    Ideally, you should buy another monster one that runs. Absolutely nothing makes trouble-shooting easier then having two nearly identical bikes, you just swap parts until the problem appears on the other one, if the problem never goes to the other bike the problem is not with those parts :| is so easy.
    We now have the original 695 running properly and all the electronic gizmos flashing when appropriate. It is a stock 6,500 km bike, we should do well on it and someone will get a good deal on a nice bike.

    Got the patch cord for running the diagnostics and the 1000 (which may be a Senna model according to some) is showing 10 errors. My partner and his crew are working through the issues. If they can't find the issue we will at least have a complete picture for Brad to look at.

    Jumping in with both feet we decided to buy a third bike, this one with no key. It's a 2003 620ie, don't know the mileage. it's got a Remus high outlet exhaust and cosmetically it's good so we should be able to get the $500 we paid back out. The real reason behind buying it was to have a bike without a key for the experimentation. Ideally by the time my partner is done we should be able to have a working keyed ignition.

    Both the 620 and the 1000 have had exhaust changes and the lids of the air boxes cut open. The 1000 shows it's not a virgin ecu in it, so it has been tuned. I am assuming that the 620's program has been modified as well, it also has a fuel tuner onboard. Both have LED brake/signal piece of shit, cheap tail lights. I don't understand why anyone would put such trash on, it's the thing that tells the tractor trailer not to run over you. Two different manufacturers and neither work properly. Sometimes the come on, maybe blink, maybe not. RRRRRRR....smash! is the solution for this problem.

    The bike has a seized caliper and it has been to cold to fix it to get off, I had to sling it on the truck. The next few days will be above -10c which will give me a chance to get it cleaned up and in where it's warm. The seat and pillion cowl are in good condition. The plate hanger has been removed, don't know where he might have hung it to keep the Crew in Blue at bay.
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    Oooooo that looks salty. Heated garage, highly recommended, is minus 19C here today and I'm going to wash and wax the Toyota

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrialsRider View Post
    Oooooo that looks salty. Heated garage, highly recommended, is minus 19C here today and I'm going to wash and wax the Toyota
    It was to cold for salt when I picked it up, it's the limestone powder from the gravel at the compound, now frozen mud. I don't usually need to wash anything this size in the winter and I can't be sure my floor drain will drain with the series of weather events we have had. I heat 400sqft of the Palace in the winter but it's my clean area. If I need to do wood or metal work I just wait until we are above -5c and I'm good to go. Tomorrow looks like a potential wash day, outside the south side of the building should get in to positive temp numbers, according to the weather guessers.

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    Where do you find a monster at those prices? I need one for SWMBO to replace her FZR400. Thinking a 695 might be a good place to start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teazer View Post
    Where do you find a monster at those prices? I need one for SWMBO to replace her FZR400. Thinking a 695 might be a good place to start.
    lol Only in Canada eh
    ... your $ is currently 31% inflated and you are not subjected to our 13% sales tax on absolutely everything. Don't complain about the cost of stuff, you guys have it good right now.

    if you talk real nice to the woodsman maybe he will cut you a good deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teazer View Post
    Where do you find a monster at those prices? I need one for SWMBO to replace her FZR400. Thinking a 695 might be a good place to start.
    If you want a nice weekend trip we do have a good 695 in black. 6500km a couple blemishes but they are not eye catching. Ontario safety (really, truly safe and ready for the love of your life to ride) $3,000US. We could likely throw in accommodation and a night of sledin'.

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