1966 250 Ducati single racer project

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TrialsRider

· #3 · May 15, 2018

Ya that would be a tough choice, buy that or a brand new 2017 CB300F complete with a new motorcycle warranty for 100 dollars less.

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3364

· #4 · May 15, 2018

Now a Singles Ducati Race Bike: Just so you didn't waste that click.

Uber Rare 1993 Ducati Supermono #22

It's always worth taking note whenever the very exclusive Ducati Supermono comes to market. This is one has reportedly been upgraded to 95 spec with a slightly larger engine capacity. Current bid is high $30k's which is probably at least the same amount left to reach reserve. But if your garage has been needing the ultimate in 90's Ducati collectables, it's time for that 2nd mortgage and a trip to Italy!
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1993 Ducati Supermono for sale on eBay

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One of very few factory built, originally 550cc but upgraded to 570cc 1995 specs. All original, very good conditions.
Ride and collect! Bullet proof investment.

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3364

· #5 · May 15, 2018

But it does cost a bit more.

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woodsman

· #6 · May 15, 2018

Seems a little pricey. https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/23804/lot/269/

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DesmoDog

· #7 · May 15, 2018 (Edited)

nic579 said:
Now a Singles Ducati Race Bike: Just so you didn't waste that click.

Uber Rare 1993 Ducati Supermono #22

I was SO hoping they'd make a street bike out of that, I'd love to have one for a track toy. I wonder what you'd end up with if you built a similar single out of a modern twin???

And yeah, that Scrambler is a huge money pit. "rest there" is a bit optimisitic, and what is there needs everything. I think it'd only take about $6k of work to make it into a $4k bike. Too far gone for a restoration but yeah, it'd be a cool base for a project bike.

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3364

· #8 · May 16, 2018 (Edited)

That was the bike I wanted when i was racing. I would have taken one for the street also.

As far as making a single out of the twin it has been done. One with counter balance and another using the second cylinder as a pump for boost. I read articles on them at one point.

Not the same with all the extra weight though.

A re-balanced one.

https://felkinsr.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/Supermono/

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DesmoDog

· #9 · May 16, 2018

IIRC the supermono was developed from a twin originally. The second piston was turned into an articulated(?) weight to balance it. I'm pretty sure if you followed the same line of work you'd come up with something that weighed abtou the same?

I read about it back then too, had delusions of trying it myself (those things have never been cheap enough for me to buy one) but it was just one of many ideas on the list of things to do someday... not sure it'd be worth the effort these days but if Ducati wanted to revisit it I'd be all ears.

I've got a 350 narrowcase that I started pumping money into, but when I tallied up what it would take to finish it the way I envisioned, the numbers didn't make sense anymore. I've already got more into it than what a brand spanking new RC390 would cost and it's not even near running yet. I stopped short of buying the dry clutch conversion or trying to get one of the 4 valve heads a buddy had cast for them...

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3364

· #10 · May 16, 2018 (Edited)

I know it's been said before Building and restoration work is not a good way to save money, you have to want to be interested in doing the work.

The article with the balance arm had drawings I might have to have a look for it just to taunt you. You never know when a good donor bike is going to drop in your lap.

I have my RD almost complete and haven't been able to get myself to spend the last cit for the crank after tallying up the receipts. Really not too bad but I have had 2 or 3 other bikes to ride so it's not been a priority.

RC390 seems like a perfect track toy,

890 Duke is close in specs

Manufacturer Ducati
Production 1993-1997 ( 65 built 93'-95', 2 built 96'-97' ) Total 67
Engine 549/572 cc 4-valve desmodromic single
12:1 compression ratio
Weber fuel injection
bore x stroke: 100 mm x 70 mm
Top speed 141 mph (227 km/h)
Power 61.4 hp (46 kW) @ 9750 rpm
Torque 37 lb⋅ft (50 N⋅m) @ 8000 rpm
Transmission 6-speed
Brakes Dual 11-inch, 4-piston Brembo disc
Weight 267 pounds (121 kg) (dry)
277 lb (126 kg) (wet)

Manufacturer	Ducati
Production	1993-1997 ( 65 built 93'-95', 2 built 96'-97' ) Total 67
Engine	549/572 cc 4-valve desmodromic single 12:1 compression ratio Weber fuel injection bore x stroke: 100 mm x 70 mm
Top speed	141 mph (227 km/h)
Power	61.4 hp (46 kW) @ 9750 rpm
Torque	37 lb⋅ft (50 N⋅m) @ 8000 rpm
Transmission	6-speed
Brakes	Dual 11-inch, 4-piston Brembo disc
Weight	267 pounds (121 kg) (dry) 277 lb (126 kg) (wet)

Ktm 690 Duke

Displacement: 690 cc
Bore: 102 mm
Stroke: 84.5 mm
Performance: 69.1 horsepower
Compression Ratio: 12.6 to 1

Weight without fuel approx.: 330.7 pounds

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jcw

· #11 · May 19, 2018 (Edited)

I so want to make a racebike out of a KTM 690 thumper.

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Or as suggested here previously, an aprilia sxv550. That would be a HOOT! 260 pounds, 70hp.

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3364

· #12 · May 19, 2018

Kramer HKR-EVO2
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[h=5]technical specifications HKR EVO2 S MY 2018:[/h]

Weight*:	125kg (276lbs)
Power:	80hp
Torque:	72Nm
Weight balance:	Front: 55% Rear: 45
Fuel capacity:	12l (3.17USgl)
Engine capacity:	690ccm
Rims:	Aluminium cast 3,5"x17" & 5,0"x17"
Exhaust:	stainless steel/titan underfloor system
Suspension:	Front: WP-USD Ø43mm Rear: WP Monoshock
Brakes:	Front: 1x Ø320mm Brembo Rear: Ø220mm MotoMaster

*including all fluids, except fuel.

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3364

· #13 · May 19, 2018

This would be fun::

[h=4]We also offer our exclusive Supermono motorcycle for daily rental. This is perfect for people who:[/h]

want to experience the performance of a lightweight racing bike on a race track.
do not own a race ready motorcycle, but want to ride on the track.
like to ride on race tracks, but do not have the time or possibility to manage all the necessary work around the actual track events.

The rental fee per motorcycle is 490 € per day, including a comprehensive insurance ( excess € 2,000 ) . If wanted, you can book personal technical assistance as well. Motorcycle collection is at the Krämer Motorcycles headquarter in Töging am Inn or directly at one of the events where we are present.

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