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I will say this - your "project" bike is cleaner than most guys "finished" bikes. Everyone building a bike should take note as to how clean things should be during "final" assembly.
 

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I will say this - your "project" bike is cleaner than most guys "finished" bikes. Everyone building a bike should take note as to how clean things should be during "final" assembly.
 

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Thanks for the comments guys. I'm hoping once this is done the next one goes a bit faster. it's going to be more of a cafe bike than this one is. Truth be told... this one is 99% cosmetic and I was kind of waiting for the ribbing to start since none of the mods have anything to do with performance. Plus, it's got clubmans! [8D]

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Maybe if you'd lay off the beer and rock music for awhile, things might go a little faster,
Well, actually... the latest distraction hasn't been beer or guitars, it's been this:


I hadn't planned on buying a new bike. I was just there to have tires put on my 996, but they had it on the floor, marked down, and I had some money. One thing led to another and there ya go. I lost my 900ss in the process so it was a bittersweet deal but so far so good.

I know funnest isn't a word, but this thing is the funnest bike I've had in years, maybe ever. It's silly. Smooth, quiet, light, easy to change lines, upright riding position, NO pressure on my wrists or palms. I have a 25 minute commute and I literally broke out laughing three times on my way home a couple days ago.

Anywhos, bottom line is buying a new bike takes a huge toll on time and money. Not the best idea when you're working on a deadline...

Speaking of which, I got the bike licensed and insured today so it's legal. Well. mostly...

I didn't get any mechanical work done though. Had a few beers with dinner and now need to go practice guitar. [:p]
 

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Thanks for the comments guys. I'm hoping once this is done the next one goes a bit faster. it's going to be more of a cafe bike than this one is. Truth be told... this one is 99% cosmetic and I was kind of waiting for the ribbing to start since none of the mods have anything to do with performance. Plus, it's got clubmans! [8D]

quote:Originally posted by trepanned23

Maybe if you'd lay off the beer and rock music for awhile, things might go a little faster,
Well, actually... the latest distraction hasn't been beer or guitars, it's been this:


I hadn't planned on buying a new bike. I was just there to have tires put on my 996, but they had it on the floor, marked down, and I had some money. One thing led to another and there ya go. I lost my 900ss in the process so it was a bittersweet deal but so far so good.

I know funnest isn't a word, but this thing is the funnest bike I've had in years, maybe ever. It's silly. Smooth, quiet, light, easy to change lines, upright riding position, NO pressure on my wrists or palms. I have a 25 minute commute and I literally broke out laughing three times on my way home a couple days ago.

Anywhos, bottom line is buying a new bike takes a huge toll on time and money. Not the best idea when you're working on a deadline...

Speaking of which, I got the bike licensed and insured today so it's legal. Well. mostly...

I didn't get any mechanical work done though. Had a few beers with dinner and now need to go practice guitar. [:p]
 

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And... first ride completed. I learned a couple things.

1) it's only got two gears. I think I must have indexed the selector box 180 degrees off, not a big deal to fix but I'm letting it cool off and won't know for sure until I pull it off. I did the same thing when I put my 750 together, you'd think I'd learn!

2) When disconnecting the rear brake cable near the end of a project, it is best to reconnect it before the first ride is taken. No harm done. Front brake works.

I'm sure I'll find other issues as I start to put some miles on it in prep for Barber, but I doubt I'll be doing much updating between now and then. There's really not much to say anymore. So, here are a few pics from it's first outing.






Thought I'd toss a "before" pic in here too, just for yucks.








Oh, one more thing. It started first kick each time I fired it up today. I'm loving that!
 

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And... first ride completed. I learned a couple things.

1) it's only got two gears. I think I must have indexed the selector box 180 degrees off, not a big deal to fix but I'm letting it cool off and won't know for sure until I pull it off. I did the same thing when I put my 750 together, you'd think I'd learn!

2) When disconnecting the rear brake cable near the end of a project, it is best to reconnect it before the first ride is taken. No harm done. Front brake works.

I'm sure I'll find other issues as I start to put some miles on it in prep for Barber, but I doubt I'll be doing much updating between now and then. There's really not much to say anymore. So, here are a few pics from it's first outing.






Thought I'd toss a "before" pic in here too, just for yucks.








Oh, one more thing. It started first kick each time I fired it up today. I'm loving that!
 

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Wow! Is that the same bike? It looks great, congratulations.
 

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Well, I just got back to Michigan from the Barber festival a couple hours ago. About 13 hours each way... it was worth it though. I'm pretty wiped out right now so this probably won't make much sense. I just wanted to add an update on how the weekend went and how the 160 ran.

It was my first time at Barber, the place is amazing. Spent much of one day in the museum and was overwhelmed by it all. While on the 4th floor taking a breather I heard something and discovered an air show going on just outside the window. Window as in floor to ceiling the entire length of the building.

The next day I was volunteering at the Ducstock event and the airshow took place right above my head. I've never had a plane diving straight at me before. It was pretty cool, just like in the movies. Except there were no guns blaring, which was fine by me.

Amazing event in general. Wonderful venue. The Ducstock part of it was pretty impressive two, I'm sure there were over a million bucks worth of bikes in the tents not to mention all the spectator bikes at the show. The 160 didn't win anything but I didn't expect it to - not stock so it wasn't a restoration and not custom looking enough to appeal to that crowd. I did get a lot of positive comments on it though and not once did anyone tell me they used to have one just like it, so all in all I'd say it went over pretty well.

It had about 15 miles on it when I loaded it in the trailer to head down there. The shifter issue turned out to be something else but was still an easy fix. When I put it on the trailer I knew of a couple issues but they were nothing that would keep it from making the trip.

The first morning there we fired up the bikes and headed out into real world traffic, promptly getting lost. Within ten minutes I was climbing a steep hill which I then had to come back down. The guy following me knew my brakes weren't great and was a bit worried I wasn't going to stop. It didn't help that I had forgotten to flip on the battery power for the brake light... but no need to worry, everything was working fine (and I remembered to flip the switch a few minutes later). Long story short it got thrown into the deep end the first day out and I must say it handled itself much better than I expected.

I was planning on riding it to the track that first day and probably just leaving it there the entire weekend. But, the road from the hotel to the track (once we found it) was perfect for that bike and I rode it to and from the track each day, grinning pretty much the whole way. I think the bike probably ended up with well over 100 miles on it (no speedo/odo yet) and a significant portion of that was at WFO. Break in period? We don't need no stinkin' break in period! (Actually I think it was a great way to break it in but that's a subject for a different post.) FWIW our group consisted of me on my 160, one buddy on a 796 Hypermotard, and another buddy on a Streetfighter. Yes, I was chasing a bike with ten times the HP of my bike each morning and afternoon. No, I did not keep him in sight! But I did better than you might think.

Using the Hypermotard's speedo as a reference it looks like the bike will hit maybe 65mph on level ground with me sitting up, add a few more mph with me tucked in. We didn't get a firm number due to the lack of a long level straight but these numbers are higher than I expected so I'm happy. I haven't checked the magazines to see what the reported top speed was for a stock Monza Jr. Maybe I should before I get too happy about this!

I can also report that there are three big twin Harleys and one large-ish 70's era looking bike of unknown, possibly British, make out there that have been reeled in, passed, and run away from by a 160cc Ducati. And let me tell you, it wasn't due to my superior acceleration.

Long story short before I fall asleep at the keyboard, the bike did itself proud. The main issue so far is a bunch of false neutrals, I have to spend more time adjusting the selector box. When taking it easy it shifts fine, but when trying to hurry things up, like when a light turns green and an SUV is coming up fast, it would miss gears and generally act up. There are numerous other things too.

Some good stuff - The seat is more comfy than I imagined it would be. I'm surprised at how easily the bike rolls around. And the engine is running like a champ. This will likely jinx it but I can't believe how well it runs with what are essentially my first stabs at carb settings and timing.

And that's it for now, time for bed...
 

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Zombie thread alert!

So the deal is I haven't worked on my "current" project for ages and I'm bored so I thought I'd update an older project.

I never did get around to fixing all the little details I left undone before Barber, I pretty much just ride it now and then.

When rewiring it, I added a front brake light switch and a kill switch. When I re-adjusted the front brake on it about a month ago I discovered the brake light was always on. Disconnecting the front switch solved that. And the last time I rode it the kill switch self-destructed. So now it's back to stock form I guess!

So the ride to work, it's about 25-30 miles each way. Since I still don't have a speedometer for it, I put a RAM mount on what is supposed to be the tach mount, and use an speedometer app on my phone to gauge my speed. Either this thing isn't running as well as it used to or my initial speed estimates were off. Sitting upright on it, it'll cruise along around 55mph on more or less level ground. Tucked in it might hit 65. Maybe. Someone told me he used to hit an indicated 85 on his back in the day, which seems very optimistic to me, but he also said his didn't struggle on hills. Yeah, he weighed about 40 pounds less than I do but still. I'm guessing I need to check this thing over. The other thing is, the garage reeks like gasoline now, and it's never done that before when it's been parked.

Back to the ride; on the way in I realized that the road I take is uphill a lot of the way in. Never noticed it before. In some areas I was struggling to keep a steady 50mph, but the speed limit was usually 45 so I was good.

I took a different route on the way home and had a little higher speed. Maybe it was just running better in warmer weather but I'm thinking it's mostly downhill on the way home. It would make sense I suppose. If I remember I'm going to check with an altimeter app.

Whatever. I made it in with no drama. Turns out I was the lone Italian in a sea of Harleys. (The cars in the background are simply parked, not part of the show)


There were some nice cars there, I didn't get pics of them though. My boss told me he was voting for my bike and I told him it was a wasted vote. People don't like small bikes, people don't like black bikes, and we are in the car business after all.

Turns out the joke was on me. The mighty Duc ended up in a 3 way tie for second place when the votes were tallied. They then drew among those three for places and I ended up as 4th but so be it. First place was a very nice 1968(?) Mustang.

After the show I rode over to the shipping scale and put the bike on it. Any guesses? I figure it had 2 -3 gallons of gas in it. I was guessing it'd weigh in around 270 lbs...


And the answer is:



247 pounds. I have no idea what other small bikes of the era weigh but that's the lightest bike I've ever owned. My RD racebike was just under 300lbs IIRC?

So there it is, my 160 Monza Jr update. There is only one more event I know about this year that I plan on taking it to I think it needs a good cleaning and general going over before that one. [/QUOTE]
 

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I think your speed is about right, mine tops out 55-60 at most. My Honda 160's run away from the Ducati.
Well that makes me feel a little better. The 55-60 part, not the Hondas outrunning it! :) It feels like it's running ok it just not much power. The first time I tried to judge speeds it was by asking other guys how fast they were going so I suppose it wasn't quite as accurate as a gps speedo.

I can't decide whether I should sell this thing or fix all the little stuff that bothers me on it and keep riding it. I do get a bit enthused about working on my 350 when I'm riding the 160. My guess is it won't weigh a whole lot more than the 160 but should be over twice the power as I plan on modding that one a bit. I'm also thinking about finding another 160 engine and doing all the hop-ups on it! (Do the cool kids still say hop-up or did that end in the 60s?)

Thanks for the input, it's good to have some reference points on where I'm at with this.
 
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