That was my point. They were claiming the frame. That and the fact that they were claiming it came from a softtail. I don't doubt that it's garbage. I also think I would prefer it to that Suzuki.what's your point? That's just the guy's shop. He used the stock cb450 swingarm to "convert" the bike to under chassis puller type shocks/springs. The stock swingarm was never designed to operate that way and is going to twist like a wet noodle. ever see a real harley softtail? the whole rear assembly is a triangle for rigidity (not just to look like a faux hardtail). It's garbage. I don't even think the tabs are all that sturdy because they are single sided and not a clevis like every other swingarm shock mount.