[taylorpietrini]

Ok... first time on a forum ever. First time building ripping apart a bike and building it ever...

I want to put some firestone deluxe champions on this bad boy, but they only make 3.50-18... the front rim fits a 3.00-18. Firestone doesnt make that wheel in a 3.00. Can i use a 3.50 for the front?

And does anyone know the diameter for the carb intake so i can purchase some K&N air filters?
With this I guess I'm trying to find out what numbers have to match up... Is it:
Base Outside Length
Base Outside Width
Flange Inside Diameter
Flange Length

Hope I'm wording all this right... any help is appreciated.

 

[figaro]

Hope this is of use to you. Not sure about the tire sizes, it's nearly always best to stick with stock sizes; I guess you could always get a new rim laced on, but I don't know how much that would cost.

Good luck with it.

 

[taylorpietrini]

Thanks so much figaro!

 

[Geeto67]

Why are you buying the worst tires ever made? Is fashion that important to you?

 

[taylorpietrini]

Geeto67 why is your head shoved so far up your ass you have to comment shit i dont care about? Get stuffed, I dont need your opinion.

 

[raven]

I know you think he is being harsh, but seriously, why are you buying a copy of a tire that was pretty much obsolete when your bike was new? Something newer, stickier and well, rounder would be much better. Bonus points for being available in the proper size.

 

[Sabre Cafe]

Ok... first time on a forum ever. First time building ripping apart a bike and building it ever...

I want to put some firestone deluxe champions on this bad boy, but they only make 3.50-18... the front rim fits a 3.00-18. Firestone doesnt make that wheel in a 3.00. Can i use a 3.50 for the front?

And does anyone know the diameter for the carb intake so i can purchase some K&N air filters?
With this I guess I'm trying to find out what numbers have to match up... Is it:
Base Outside Length
Base Outside Width
Flange Inside Diameter
Flange Length

Hope I'm wording all this right... any help is appreciated.

Guess not the help that goes against any decision he's already made.

 

[mlinder]

Taylor, we'll try to be blunt without offending your sensibilities.

Those are awful tires, used primarily on awful bikes. It's ok that they suck, though, because most of the bikes they are on are 10-foot trailer or parking lot queens.

They also DO NOT MATCH, aesthetically, a 70's jap bike. They are modeled after a 50's tire.

I've had to put these awful tires on a couple bikes for customers. They look bad.

It's akin to putting model T wood spoked wheels on a '40 ford.

Can I point you in another direction?

Speedmaster MkII | Avon Tyres

Fantastic tires, and look MUCH better.

 

[kerosene]

If the OP isn't a troll we better give him enough shit so he leaves. Not only are his question the classic idiocy but his 1st reaction classifies him as a waste of time too.

So dear Taylor, Fuck off.
thanks.

 

[Joep7]

If the OP isn't a troll we better give him enough shit so he leaves. Not only are his question the classic idiocy but his 1st reaction classifies him as a waste of time too.

So dear Taylor, Fuck off.
thanks.

I like the direct approach. Rash of these last couple days.

 

[crazypj]

taylor, if your still checking, you don't know the difference between a RIM size and TYRE size. (tire is when you have been working and need a rest)
CB360 has a 1.6" wide front rim and a 1.85" wide rear rim
You did get diameter right though they are 18"
As for Firestone tyres, majority of people who have fitted them to CB360 were not happy with the handling or performance and changed them way before they wore out
Save some time and money and get decent tyres

 

[taylorpietrini]

Can you recommend a decent tyre? And thank you for not coming in with guns hot.

 

[taylorpietrini]

Thanks for the direction mlinder. I appreciate it.

 

[Geeto67]

Avon speedmaster if you want a new safe vintage looking tire. There are others too like Dunlop k81s, metzler lazertechs, etc....

since you didn't ask and acted like a shithead, I'm going to give you an education anyway:

the Firestone repops you probably saw in a magazine somewhere are not actually made by Firestone. They are made by Coker, a company that makes replica tires for 100 pt restorations. These tires are not DOT certified (meaning legally you shouldn't even be using them on the road), are not speed rated, and at one point they were sold "for display use only". They were literally made so guys restoring 40's and 50's American bikes would have an accurate looking tire for show judging. The chopper world got a hold of them and they became fashionable.

Im not saying Coker makes a bad product, for what they were intended for they are ideal. I just wouldn't trust my life or anybody else's to go 100mph on a set of them. I have never seen a high mileage set, ever.

I was asking a serious question when I asked you why you wanted them. I really want to know what goes through people's minds when they pick the shittiest parts imaginable. Dd they just not know? Was it recommended to them? Did they do any research that didn't include pipe burn or bike exif?

Its ok to be a noob, but when someone calls you out for it you can either be inquisitive and willing to learn or you can meet them with righteous indignation and be an asshole. Guess which one you are.

 

[mlinder]

Thanks for the direction mlinder. I appreciate it.

So both Geeto and I have recommended the avon speedmasters now. Seriously great tires, and look cool as shit.

 

[Geeto67]

I want an apology. I know I'll never get one but still - it is nice to have standards.

5 minutes of googling and I found this:
Firestone Champion Deluxe Wobble - Main Forum

Classic Tires that perform? [Archive] - The Jockey Journal Board

Firestone tire "growth" [Archive] - The Jockey Journal Board

"Vintage Tire" Experiences ? [Archive] - The Jockey Journal Board

even the chopper guys admit they suck but because they look "so cool" they run them anyway. This is no way to pick a motorcycle part.

 

[crazypj]

Personally I prefer tyres that work rather than 'look' right.
I do like the AVON Speedmaster front tyre though but much prefer Dunlop K70 rear to go with it
Still 'period correct' but handle better than AVON Safety Mileage rear/Speedmaster front (although they work well on lower powered bikes or if you don;t lean over very far)
At present I'm using Metzeler on one 360 and Bridgestone Battlax on another

 

[drgonzo]

Vintage Motorcycle Tires | Heidenau Tires

 

[Geeto67]

one of our members here (I forget who) is a Hidenau dealer. The tires are excellent quality but comparably priced to other high quality tires (you aren't getting a $60 cheng shin). Honestly I would try a set, if I had a need.

 

[hahnda]

I sell the Heidenau tires. I actually just had a 360 in here 2 weeks ago and that got Heidenau's on it. Another 360 showed up last Friday and that will probably get Heidenau's also. They are a great looking tire and wear well. They are not the cheapest tire out there but if you put them side by side with a Shinko/Kenda/Duro you can see why. Honestly the the Shinko, Kenda, and Duros also aren't bad tires for lower performance older bikes but the Heidenaus are just better quality.