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also alot of the hate that the OP is getting is coming from the fact that your not being honest to the bike....

what i mean by that is that if you came here and said
"i found out about cafe bike and think its cool. i want to learn more about what makes a cafe. i bought this bike as i think it will be a great learner and down the road ill get something to cafe"
that shows that you made a good choice in buying a simple bike to learn how to ride and learn what it takes to keep and old bike on the road.

lets not hate to much on the hawk when it is used how it is ment to be used.
its is a basic small slow bike. but i think would be great for a new guy to learn on.

but it is NOT
a performance bike and its really not worth trying to make it that.

there are many other bikes out there that can be "cafe'ed" and latter down the road it would be better to get something else to build a cafe out of.

where the problem is coming from is that you want to put clubmans on a stock hawk.
this shows that you have been looking at pics of cafe and want your bike to look like that.
but you havent found out that cafe bikes need to perform,

if you put clubmans on a hawk you have nothing......
you no longer have a good basic bike
you have a bike thats uncomfortable and a real pain in the ass to ride.
and its got less performance then you started
 

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That honda guy in Potsdam is the biggest douche ever. He literally told me fuck you after I wouldnt pay like 20 dollars for an oil seal thats like 5 bucks off honda-parts. I want to do unspeakable things to that store. Also, Jags add really does work haha he gets people wanting to trade or sell interesting stuff almost weekly.
Geeto-Will might not admit this but have you heard the stuff he was banging before his current girl? :/
JackC-if youre ever in Potsdam soon let us know im sure there are plenty of bikes in our garage for us all to go for a ride.
 

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Bassmaster,

Thanks for the invite but I don't plan on ever going to Potsdam again, unless that Honda guy dies and they have an auction. I agree he is a dick. Both boys are done with college there (state).

Every time I went up there from Oneonta between October and May I got stuck in a snow storm around Pulaski.

Same offer for here extended to you all.
 

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quote:Originally posted by Ratty-550

Didn't read all this, seemed like a lot of words.

Geeto don't you have a Hawk?

Hey new guy, welcome.
Nah, sold it. The guy who bought it is a friend of a member here and a new rider. Doesn't have any notions of throwing clubmans on it, just wants to ride on the highway.
 

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And that's why he got no hate.....
He is using it they way it should be used.
I was there and I saw geeto being nice to a new rider with a hawk.....


Also frank don't start about girls.....





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quote:Originally posted by Ratty-550

Didn't read all this, seemed like a lot of words.

Geeto don't you have a Hawk?

Hey new guy, welcome.
Nah, sold it. The guy who bought it is a friend of a member here and a new rider. Doesn't have any notions of throwing clubmans on it, just wants to ride on the highway.
 

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quote:... but alas i did not slip from my mom with a vast amount of cafe racer knowledge. thats what the internet is for right?
Internet isn't for ultra-deviant bondage porn, in the comfort of your own home? That's what I thought it was for.


I have never seen Geeto be anything but nice & sweet & gentle, his CR.net doppleganger, however, entertains the shit outta me, almost every single day.
On to Spif's very handsome Hhawk, I believe he sold it because it bored him to tears, and he couldn't bear to keep riding it anymore. So, it's the mid 80s Buick Skylark of motorcycles?

New guy: Branch of service & MOS, please.
 

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well thanks all for the mixed emotions

for all who want to have more of an introduction im Patrick, 26 yrs old, 5 years Navy service working on all types of AC deployed on bullet sponges "frigates" live up in the south shore of MA

i got the bike because of the price and the condition, it was not initally bought for the purpose of chaning it around its another toy i can use during the short riding season up here
i have looked alot through the search and it brings up 99% of the same thing, people just saying your bike sucks, get a different one. well, not too much help, im not getting a new one im keeping this one
bike is 100% original i got it from a man in his late 70s, he bought it new January of 1979 i have the original Title, bill of sale and registration when i picked up the bike.
i am not even close to being interested in "racing" the bike, im a pilot and if i was racing and messed up my body well that would ruin my career.
as far as the parts listed those are just the parts i could find myself.
i have seen a few builds where people cut the back off shortened it and re fabed the way they wanted it, they also just sell a seat that has a rounded back and is for one person, the clubman bars well i like the look of them, or a low drag bar, i like the look of a spoke wheel but i may just keep mine and have them done black to cut back on costs for now.
as for right now im looking for the easy thinkgs i can do without tearing the bike down, its too close to being nice out every day to ride
the quick thing i can see would be new bars, lights, seat, guages, all of what im having a hard time to find besides bar and seat
at the end of the season with hopefully a few extra bucks i will add new shocks and maybe tear down the back to shorten it up some, i have a bit of metal work under my belt but family who has done it and built bikes for years.
i didnt look for and "easy" bike to do it because thats boring and cookie cutter to me, my own parts or parts robbed from a diffrent doner bike would be ideal. i really like the yellow one that getto posted is kinda what im looking to do over some time and not with a huge budget, im not keeping the bike forever as most people never do

thank you for all the imput and any place or person that knows of other parts or interchangeable parts that can fit with some adjusting would be great.
ill try to figure how to post a pic
 

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To post a pic, go to FAQ here. There is a tutorial on it, but once your pics are in your photobucket album, to copy it click on the box that starts http:, I think it is bottom one of 4 or 5. Then just go to your post and click paste. I couldn't figure it out for a long time, then just paid attention to the instructions and it worked.

Taking one of the above posters advice, I went over to dotheton.com and looked in their for sale section. There is a guy there selling some cb400 stuff, but I suspect it is stock take offs, though I saw some chrome gauges- I don't know much about those "new" bikes.

What do you fly? 26 years ago a Cessna 172 was my "ride" of choice.
 

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i tried to post it on here but the links not working, but it worked when i just pasted the link, hopefully that can do for now so people can see it.
 

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It can't be hosted from your gmail. Unless you want to give us your login and password to your gmail account.
photobucket.
 

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that is a very clean looking stocker.
would be a shame to mess it up. yes i know there is no reason to save a hawk but right now is almost the best the bike will ever be.....

when people are telling you to just start off with a new bike take a second to think about what they are saying.
they are not saying that your bike is crap but they are saying that its not a good start to a true performance bike.

you say your not intersted in performance......so why build a cafe?

its the same idea as saying i want to win the baja 1000.......check out the bike im gunna use......a honda hawk......
its not that the hawk is bad but it is bad at off road racing......and its the same thing with a cafe.

you will get a million times more enjoyment from that bike stock and then keep and eye out for some other bike cheap that will fit the cafe bill

and since your new at this cafe thing you will want to tare the whole bike down and throw 3/4 of it away anyway so....
 

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yeh im not looking for a strict cafe racer, just a few mods to change it up thats all, i dont like the bars or the rack on the back thats getting taken off and id just like the look of new bars, the seats gotta go and so dose the giant black plastic gauges,

its kinda like buying a Mustang or a Camaro that has a 6 banger in it, it looks good, but its really not ment to go fast know what im saying?

not trying to present the bike as anything that its not, i understand that its not the ideal bike to chop down and make bad ass, i just want it to look a little better and a little more to my liking thats all.
 

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Put flat bars on it, take off the rack, get good tires and some decent suspension, go thrught things that need to be gone through, like brakes, filters, etc, and call it a day.

Find a gs750 for cheap while you still can and start a cafe racer with it.
 

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Blah, blah, blah...

The luggage rack is cool. Keep it (but remove the sissy bar portion). I have the exact same rack on my CB360 (need I post yet another picture of how cool Baby Sister is wearing her luggage rack, etc?) and I love it.

Seriously, that's sound advice: Don't get rid of the rack!

And you want superbike bars... once again, on my CB360, yadda yadda...

The only reason to get rid of the seat is because of the black tape on it. Just replace the cover and call it a day.
But DO ditch the crash bars/highway pegs... and the square auxiliary foglight (that's just ghey as hell).

DO NOT swap the guages.
DO NOT paint those Comstars.
DO NOT remove the side covers or factory airbox.
I'm even going out on a limb here, advising against replacement of the exhaust.

That bike is a survivor. Original factory paint, clean, complete, and it runs well too? It'll serve you very well as is (after Judey's very sensible tweaks).

My suggestions are the most sensible you're going to hear, because Judey is always right.



Now, new guy, before you lump me in with the rest of the mean, bossy douchebags... allow me to inform you that I too own one of Honda's more ignominious motorcycles: CB360... upon which I have added insult to injury with my choice of modifications - and I even gave her a gay name on top of it all (actually, my daughter named the bike, not me). I have, however, not made any of the rookie mistakes you're proposing for your own bike, for this simple reason:
I am under no illusions that my bike is a 6cyl Mustang/Camaro. I recognize it for what it really is: 1987 Ford Escort Pony. That's right... the most basic mode of transportation Ford produced at the time. Heavens! I even owned one! It was the first brand new car I ever bought. But... it got me around town, to school & back, etc. for 9yrs (during which time it received exactly 1 oil change over the course of 90,000mi - and still ran fine, though a little bit smoky, when I crashed it into the back of that van). I donated it to Viet Nam Vets of America, because I am also a vet, though not a boat queer. I was a US Army M1 tanker.


Ok. You may now resume your former drinking posture. Judey has no beer, and is off to bed.
 

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quote:Originally posted by plarivee

the 172 is my ride right now, piper seneca this summer till the end of school, hopefully a jet soon.
Grew up in aviation. When I was a teenager my father and I restored a 1963 Mooney M20C.

gonna tell you how to set up your bike for maximum enjoyment right now:

get a superbike bend bar, some bar end mirrors, and strip the luggage rack off (but keep it for camping trips). maybe a mac pipe. and some new shocks from progressive suspension. ride the tits off it. next year come back and well tell you how to make a proper cafe bike after you got some miles under you.
 

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thank you for the last posts, it was what i was looking for, i will keep all original equipment so it can be restored back to what it is if needed, i just would like to change it up a little with small things, as far as the rack, i like racks, all kinds and sizes, just not on my bike. ill put it back on when i need to use it, the light and stuff will be changed, remember, its been the same from 79 when the guy bought it new, and he added the light because he has bad vision. other than that, 12,130 miles, and kicks over first try. for a first bike, i dont think i did too bad.
 
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