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I am treating it more like a place to post a short "story" about a topic rather then the "thread" option of a forum. My hope is that other users do the same in response. Meaning I might post about a DOHC Honda story that I have because I read something similar another member posted, then a third member posts a story about his Suzuki, ect ect ect.

So far I am loving it.
 
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Sounds like a bunch of time spent posting articles that nobody is reading. Follows right along with our flash in the pan society. No continuity, no posterity, and no real discussion on any topic. Just "me me heres my stuff and my ideas blah" It's ghey.
 

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Sounds like a bunch of time spent posting articles that nobody is reading. Follows right along with our flash in the pan society. No continuity, no posterity, and no real discussion on any topic. Just "me me heres my stuff and my ideas blah" It's ghey.
It is if you are only reading it but if you contribute original material it is what you make it.

... plus you get to poke fun at the hipsters in their comments sections.
 

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It is if you are only reading it but if you contribute original material it is what you make it.

... plus you get to poke fun at the hipsters in their comments sections.
speaking of which, I really miss hipsterbikevideos.com it hasn't been updated in almost a year
 

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I like it (MA) and think it is a good little base for posting up articles related to the sport of maintaining and building bikes from the home shop.

One thing I would advise its that you encourage contributors to put together a weekly ongoing article about the more long winded stuff as opposed to adding to the tale in the comments section. That way you keep a good signal to noise ratio (comments are left for just that) and the tribe will function more like the fanzine it should be.

Seems to be going pretty well so far. I might even do a little article or two myself for it.
We are still finding our voice. Right now It's mostly Jaguar and I churning content until we can get some other people posting. Some of our friends like Bigbadbobdog (Rosario) and DiamondJ (Jim) are adding content sporadically and that is helping. It's a slow build as we both get our footing and get other's posting with the same tone.

A lot of it is focused on the home shop, grassroots part of bike and cars. I know we haven't put much car content up yet but it's coming. Also we are still experimenting what works and what doesn't. Hardly anybody seems to be bumping anything right now, I don't know if it is just because we aren't putting up interesting stuff or because it's called a bump instead of a like and people are confused by that.

Right now we have 63 members, My goal is 100 members by the EOY, which might be tough considering the holidays. However, Starting next monday I have the whole rest of the week off and I plan to really work on some more meaningful content. I have several half written articles that I just haven't had time to finish, once I am not working and someone is around to watch the kid, I will start putting my back into it.
 

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“Totally isolated from our own culture for long
periods, we became vulnerable to forgotten times
and tribes re-awakening within us."

- Lawrence Blair, Ring of Fire: An Indonesia Odyssey



From Elliot Hulse:

"There are those amongst us, who believe you and I
are cursed

Not in the traditional sense of the word, but in a far less
obvious way

It wasn’t too long ago we lived in bands of 10-50
mostly close family members, all working together to
hunt and forage for food, shelter a few other limited resources

Now, thanks to modern advances in farming, technology and
medicine we have the opportunity to live relatively healthy,
wealthy and abundant lives...

... without having to rely on a familial band to survive.

Think about it, how many people do you know who see or let
alone talk to their cousins more than once or twice a year?

Outside of family gatherings, a birth or death in the family

They might as well be complete strangers

We live in a fragmented society

And here's the thing, humans are social by nature and when
we are cut off from our tribes, the pain of isolation becomes
unbearable

In fact in ancient times if you were banished from the tribe,
it meant you were royally fucked.

Being ostracized back then meant scouring for resources by
yourself, which was a death sentence.

And though, I’d argue the pain of being rejected by friends and family
still causes the same psychological and emotional trauma it did back then

Nowadays you can at least hop on social media and get a hit of instant
validation when you're feeling like dog shit

But that false engagement is akin to jerking off...

It feels good for a moment, but ultimately leaves you feeling empty and wishing
for much, much more...

Truth is the instant validation and spike in feel good hormones you get from
someone liking your post doesn’t fulfill that deeper desire we all yearn for:
because you aren't built that way

Back in the day, your tribe filled you with a sense of purpose..."
 

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And it still should.... That's why I joined Kerry's tribe.... I like what it stands for.

My tribe is going to be a fun encyclopedia of motorcycles contributed to by the tribe itself. I'm hatching a plan as we speak..... Ichiban San's tribe will be one for future note I hope....

I have dinner to cook and chores to do. Motorcycles have to wait for a couple of hours......
 

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You like what it stands for?... oh brother.

"Gotta really put my back into it".. as if posting free articles on social media is some sort of life work and major contribution to the real builder culture

facepalms all around
 

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You like what it stands for?... oh brother.

"Gotta really put my back into it".. as if posting free articles on social media is some sort of life work and major contribution to the real builder culture

facepalms all around
you yourself gobbed off at how many people were viewing your thread.

I fancy it from the site traffic alone.

I'll still come back and visit you in your little pond....
 
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I am one of those people who doesn't buy that we are less connected now. We are actually more connected and more social than we have ever been in the past, and because of technology we are regularly interacting with cultures we have never before had easy access to. What we are terrible at is being self aware, being sensitive and unserstanding to the myrad of and accepting the differences that exist in those cultures.

People who complain that the internet is robbing us of our interpersonal interactions, are no different than people that said the same thing about VCRs, Televisions, Radio, Newspapers, Photographs, etc...and I am not exaggerating here they said literally the same thing about newspapers:

Transport Passenger Snapshot Monochrome Black-and-white


Plato said this about Books and Reading:
[h=1]If men learn this, it will implant forgetfulness in their souls; they will cease to exercise memory because they rely on that which is written, calling things to remembrance no longer from within themselves, but by means of external marks. What you have discovered is a recipe not for memory, but for reminder. And it is no true wisdom that you offer your disciples, but only its semblance, for by telling them of many things without teaching them you will make them seem to know much, while for the most part they know nothing, and as men filled, not with wisdom, but with the conceit of wisdom, they will be a burden to their fellows[/h]
yes Plato actually argued that books and reading will make you stupider and hinder interpersonal understanding.

We don't live in any more of a fragmented society than we have in the past, but we are just now becoming aware that how we interact is not how we thought we interact. At the end of the day people don't really want to readily interact with strangers and will put up anything, a newspaper, a cell phone, a photograph, twiddling their thumbs to avoid doing so.

Are there changes that have affected how we used to live that came with cell phones? sure. Are some of them negative? yeah sure. Are they as bad as everyone is making it out to be and we are in the decline of western civilization? no. We are still better off than at any other time in the past, and we will continue to be so because progress is a forward march.
 

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Not less connected, in a sense of information or correspondence. Less connected through energy and emotion.
Seems to me that it has only served to amplify the energy and emotion that existed already....if this last election is any indication.
 

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you yourself gobbed off at how many people were viewing your thread.
Yea, sure but it'd be nearly impossible to get the same amount of exposure in the DT format. And even though some of the initial attention was due to oddly polarizing content, I think continued viewership in any project thread is ultimately due to progress, 'real time' content, natural want for the satisfaction of seeing a project completed from start to finish, and being able to comment and interact during the entire process.

Anyone that has been on forum long has seen the threads where somebody basically posts an article about the build, posting probably 1/10th of the pics a real time build thread gets, and just a few pats on the back before the thread dies out. That's what I see happening on DT. More of a bulletin board than a an interactive forum.

Just my opinion, worth less every day.
 

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"the real builder culture"
Please define this term for us. Be very specific and expand in great detail with sources and credit as if you were posting a wiki.
Your explanation should be complete with no follow up questions required on our part.
No explanation is possible. You either know or you don't.
It is a serious question. That term is reserved for portland hipsters and boyracers. If there is a higher meaning - we must know.
 
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