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I just got this note from someone to put this in the next exhausted Notes, but since that is a ways away, I though tI would post these here. I have NOT seen these, nor do I know the person selling them. She is 4 miles south of NHIS. The ads are as I received them. No Photos. Do not call me. Call Andy at 603 225 7627

Bridgeston 1965 Hurricane Scrambler 175 DT $595.00 or BRO

Honda 1972 CB350F $895.00 or BRO

348 Route 106S Loudon, NH 03307
 

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speaking of ExNotes, did i fall off the mailing list or was it more intentional than that? actually, my PO has been dicey lately but i'm just making sure i haven't been blackballed.

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eve admitted that the database is fucked. if your address changed or if you beccame a member in the last year, you're probably outta luck. Send me your address and it'll go out. Much as we love her, apparently the database needs to be fixed. And she doesn't wanna do it. Would you?

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eve admitted that the database is fucked. if your address changed or if you beccame a member in the last year, you're probably outta luck. Send me your address and it'll go out. Much as we love her, apparently the database needs to be fixed. And she doesn't wanna do it. Would you?
damn, I really need to get this all online for them...
 

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in no way do i mean to be mean and imply it was eve's fault . . . she just told me the fact that there were many errors that had crept in and not been fixed and the database was supposed to be backed up and it wasn't and all her work was lost.

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sure, i understand. Eve has a pretty thankless job from what i've seen in my one season. just the misery of watching all of us ugly folks grunting around in the registration line could be enough to deal with.

i'm a patient guy and all, so i am coming to understand that the bikes aren't the only thing vintage in this oraganization. if it weren't for the members like yourself and JohnnyB, MattT, MikeO and Tex and all pointing me in the right directions i would have been totally lost all season. i never recieved membership info, JohnnyB is the one who sent me race registrations, etc. if i were a new member who didn't accidentally find the forums and sift through all the postings, i wouln't know a thing. i found my way through, but it seems like others could end up feeling unwelcome.

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It was like pulling teeth when I joined to find out just what the hell was going on. Back then no egroup, no website either. Everyone had an idea what might be allowed/possible/rules/dates/etc/etc...but no one KNEW. There appeared to be no voice of authority. I've given up on offering ideas to streamline things...ie: transponders, on-line registration/membership, payments via paypal or CC, unified membership/registration/grid database. Lots of members think they are good ideas...but alas getting the final word, go ahead, funding or necessary data is next to impossible. Numerous members have offered services etc to accomplish these tasks...but there apparently isn't any interest in doing so by the management.
That said, things do get done and the events run fairly smoothly and everyone usually has fun.
I do have the points scoring for events down to a science. I can usually get them to the webmaster within a week...assuming I'm given the score sheets. All done on MS Excel.
As the median age of the club goes down (which it seems to be doing amoung new members) I think we might see a bit more flexibility and a move towards embracing some new technology.
I hope so.
JohnnyB



Edited by - jbranson on Jan 25 2006 5:37:06 PM
 

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yeah, what JB said. i remember trying to find out what it took to race with uscra for the first time from some members. They always said they didn't know. They just eventually went and raced. and then they sort of laughed that laugh that I give when folks ask me how to get into it.

But seriously, one has to come to the realization that this organization is first and foremost a CLUB. I was thinking about Bob Coy's position in this last night after the Aaron email to the USCRA group.

As much as we want to be WERA or AHRMA or whatever initials you want to give it, we are the USCRA, and that's it. If you want to join those organizations, do it, but there are rules and such that you'll have to abide by. If you want the USCRA to be something else, it's not going to happen, until someone else here decides to start a new club in new england. And that is VERY unlikely to happen.

I have thought that the USCRA's general reluctance to deal with certain issues has, in the past, been a hindrance to "progress" in making the USCRA a "respected" race organization in the Northeast. I realize now, that in fact, it is actually (OK, could be) an advantage, if you want to look at it from certain perspectives. It's a loose knit organization. We all have fun. There really are no protests. We support each other. We help folks like the wrecking crew from NY (How come they are not here on CRNet?) and Tilghman, and we have some of the best vintage racers in the country come to the events. i still remember MY FIRST 350 race. Christ, I'd never been in a race before and there I was with Roper, Courts, and others. Anyway . . . . .

I've digressed. I also thought of something else last night. It seems as though the only time there is a "Forum" is at the mandatory track/race meeting. (OK, there is another time. The rules committee meeting at the banquet) .

I am (I know you're reading this champ) requesting that at some point in the coming season, there be an "open" meeting of the attending members of the USCRA at a race, and that the "officers" (public relations, Director, registrar, Rules committee) for a "state of the organization" meeting,a nd a chance for members to voice opinions.

I'll be the first one to say that there will be little to be gained by this, and maybe that is for good, but at least "our" voices can be heard.

And maybe then we can make sure that the USCRA will be around for a long time. The alternative maybe not so attractive.

Evil, I'll probably edit the hell out of this after it's posted and I read it.
 

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For now I still support the club, but thinking of it as my club or our club is a joke. I've made my effort and you couldn't pay me to deal with John S anymore. Plus what I posted was just ideas, nothing negative, and they were posted cause I was backed in to a corner from "can't mind his own business" Strempfer. The only thing I said negative was the club needed to get a PR person who wasn't such a trouble maker. He likes to give shit, but doesn't like getting it back. So the rest of my response really isn't negative other then helpful insight. For all I know Bob has looked in to things people mention, but with out a response how will we know. I will take it for what it is, a local club to race with.

Scott you wrote "And maybe then we can make sure that the USCRA will be around for a long time. The alternative maybe not so attractive."

The alternatives being WERA and AHRMA?

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Well I'd wish people would stop calling it a "Club"...it's a business, not a club. Clubs elect presidents, have open finances, vote on rules and policies etc etc.

Actually a new club in NE might not be that far fectched. I hear there are larger vintage clubs...WERA etc that want a piece of Loudon, I've also heard CCS might be interested in starting some vintage activities.

Don't mistake myself or other members that bitch about things...it's because we like the people that race in this "club" and want it to continue. I don't think it's got long to live if it stays on the same course. Basically...if we get thrown out of NHIS the "club" is history.....and it gets closer to that each year.

Personally...I don't care what the initials are or who runs the club long as I get to race with my bros.
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Sadly enough you have state "Don't mistake myself or other members that bitch about things...it's because we like the people that race in this "club" and want it to continue."

This should go with out saying and I also want to race with my bros with USCRA Inc.
 

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We had one of those meetings at the track once... Whole bunch of stuff was suggested, many good suggestions. The USCRA booth at the NYC motorcycle show was one thing that came out of that. Also the regional coordinators came out of that. But things quiet down after a bit if management doesn't take the reigns and ride with it. Laconia was also born from that meeting, I think.

Hell, I showed up at a rules committee meeting over a year ago and got all you bastards banished from 350GP.. I mean I suggested as a new class Formula-CB. That happened. So, if you want stuff to happen, you have to show up and do it. Yes it is a business. Most likely a money losing business...

blah blah blah... sorry for rambling my heads in a fog from a cold...
 

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Yep I was at that meeting. All the people that volunteered to do the various tasks did a great job. ( I'm an upstate NY regional rep)

As for losing money...who knows. If I'm not good enough to be informed of the status of my "club" finances...then I don't give a flying hoot if they lose money or not. Now if they wanted to open things up...tell me how much money is made or lost and where. I'll work my butt off to make sure the club has the money it needs to RACE...I said RACE...let me repeat that RACE!

Since I've been in the USCRA I've had about $300 in checks that were never cashed....it's gotten way better lately. Doesn't seem like a club that's losing money. BUT, if it is...let's have a financial officer, a report once or twice a year. If the club makes money then lets reward Bob and the officers for their work. If it loses money then let's make adjustments so it doesn't.

But as we all know the subject of money is taboo, "None of your business you know...Bob owns the USCRA"... ok great..then let it keep losing money...I'm just a customer paying for a service. Which by the way is an opinion I've heard expressed by numerous long time, respected memebers of the USCRA that would really surprise you. They have told me, "NO I won't volunteer for anything...I pay to race, not to work". Most of these guys race a lot with WERA and AHRMA where they are never asked to volunteer for anything.

I just really....REALLY dislike the attitude that when there is work that needs to be done, and volunteers that are needed the USCRA is a big happy CLUB.....when money is discussed, or alternative tracks etc....all of a sudden...it's a business again....and none of the business is OURS.

Anyone that has dealt with me knows I am always willing to go the extra mile, always willing to help a good cause or a friend. Don't ask me to help a business though. I'll work my ass off for a CLUB if I can see on paper where the fruits of my labors go. DON'T tell me I'm good enough to do a job for free...but not good enough to see how my work is helping to accomplish a goal.

Right now the only reason I do the things I do for the club is so it stays alive so I can see you guys at the races. I wish I had a loftier purpose, like working for the good of the USCRA as a whole...but alas I'll never know what impact my efforts might have.

And yes Aaron it is sad we have to state a disclaimer like that with our comments....but..unfortunately with the USCRA for some reason it's like you are their friend or their enemy...no inbetween.

In hindsight I see now I should have never gotten involved in "CLUB" business...I should have remained one of the faceless racers that show up, pay their money, race, go home. That sure is looking nice right about now.
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so why is she trading bikes for bros? does she have a bro complex?

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We had one of those meetings at the track once... Whole bunch of stuff was suggested, many good suggestions. The USCRA booth at the NYC motorcycle show was one thing that came out of that.
UnaWunga & All,
Just wanted to chime in and say that I including tt, jumped on the band wagon because of the suggested booth at the NYC motorcycle show. We actually were more crazed about the vintage jap bikes then all the new iron at the show.

Honestly, I'm happy that most of you have shed some light about how the bizness is handled at the USCRA. My only complaint/opinion will be to have more tracks available besides NHIS. I'm probably way out of my league here by chiming (being a newbie) in but it's only my concern and thought I would chime in to add my 2cents.

PS. I've been following the thread on the USCRA forum.

Last, all I can say besides my moto troubles I had during the cold/rainy/bon fire/whisky drinking/60mph winds/ezup flying away breaking into peices/motorcycle falling over/coming out of the nice warm van to pickup all my gear and try looking for my ezup without a flashlight/going back to sleep with all my cloths totally wet weekend @ frontierland. I'll do it again & again just to hang with all you bros!

Btw, I couldn't get over how tall JB is and how sexy tex looks with thongs!

Alex

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Alex, you have every right to comment...it's new members that are going to keep this club alive. If you guys aren't happy, you go elsewhere and eventually we cease to exist.

Next year for frontierland we plan on having a butt sex party by the campfire....Brokeback Mountain ain't got nothin on us baby!!
We all get to "ride" the new guy!!

See...it's little things like that we do to keep you new members interested.
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all i wanted to do was help the little lady sell her husband's bikes.

Anyone help her out yet?
 
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