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I opened a new section because I was surprised we didn't have one for gear discussions.

Anyone have any experience with a bluetooth helmet? Do you find it distracting? I'm mostly interested because I would think it's safer to hear audio navigation cues than to say, mount your phone on your bars and look for visual cues. There have been a lot of times lately where I've needed navigation and just had to pull over to check when I got close.
 

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Well, I think riders should determine their intended flight plans, well before launch. I don't think there should be any audio action or a visual display screen diverting a riders focus or depleting their already scant attention spans. Also, I can't think of a worse way to conduct a phone call, than inside a helmet at speed, or in traffic. It's hardly a dignified way for a gentleman to conduct himself on a motorcycle.

I'm not against technology though. I think being able to play Tetris with my tongue, on a HUD visor would be a good way to wile away the seconds, while waiting patiently for a stop light to change.

I found that listening to loud rock music in my helmet, at well over the ton, while commuting, made concentration rather difficult.

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Ignoring the irony of you telling me how a "Gentleman should conduct himself", I'm aware of the pitfalls. I don't condone drowning out the audio cues that keep us alive with the latest from Godsmack or something. I'm talking about audio navigation, in a circumstance where memorizing directions is not feasible.
 

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I found that listening to loud rock music in my helmet, at well over the ton, while commuting, made concentration rather difficult.

Danger, is my business."
good thing is the crash investigators will be able to download your cellphone and know what distraced you.
 

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I have a Sena SMH10 in my helmet and I love it. I can hook it up to GPS (bluetooth or plug), phone for calls or music, and I can talk to other riders who have helmet systems. (It's the only one right now I think that is universal and connects to any brand).

Being able to talk to my passenger or riding buddy is easier than hand signals and easier to coordinate stops. GPS is great on long trips because it just kicks in my helmet without ever having to think about looking at something. I listen to music sometimes too and people can say what they will but after logging thousands and thousands of miles I have never had an issue with distraction. Depends on the person, new riders without experience shouldn't have any distractions.

All of the helmets I have seen that have them built in are cheap so a unit like the SENA is the way to go because you can move it from helmet to helmet or get a couple mounts and move it around. Works great on my offroad helmet too for when I'm out in the middle of nowhere. If I wreck and break all of my limbs I can still voice command my way to 911 to get help.
 

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Cool. Does the helmet have to be set up for it though? Like with recesses for the parts?
 

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Years ago before bluetooth I put a set of speakers in a helmet and hooked up to my walkman or radio or some such thing. HATED it. Pulled the speakers after one ride.

Flash forwad ten or fifteen years and I bought a Sena SMH10 before a bike vacation (averaged about 540 miles per day when we rode) and I loved having it. As mentioned in another thread, I don't use it for phone calls. But even that is mainly due to me rarely talking on a phone anyway. I was surprised how much I liked having an option to listen to music. Going across Nebraska it was nice to hear something other than the drone of the ST1100 I was on... I haven't tried the intercom feature with other riders but probably will later this year since a riding buddy is now Sena equipped also.

I still detest LOUD music when I ride. Don't like it much when I'm not riding either. As counter-intuitive as it may sound I still wear earplugs.

I think most recent helmets have cut outs for speakers? The rest of it clamps on the outside so it will work in most helmets. I set up a Suomi with no mods to the helmet. I had to cut some of a trim piece to get it to fit my Nolan. My GT Air is speakerless right now, I'm awaiting a new Sena unit which is built specifically for the GT Air and is all internal, no snap-on module on the side.
 

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More to the point, does Ichiban Moto do spoken word or pop music in mp3 format for fastlane entertainment?

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No I have several helmets and only one has internal speaker pockets. I assume there are some it wont work with but I would say its pretty universal.

I agree Desmo, I wear earplugs. I bought the do it yourself kit you make that fit your ear. Works great, doesnt fall out and I can still hear my music. It does sound counter intuitive but it makes it easier to focus.
 

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I have a Sena SMH10 in my helmet and I love it. I can hook it up to GPS (bluetooth or plug), phone for calls or music, and I can talk to other riders who have helmet systems. (It's the only one right now I think that is universal and connects to any brand).

Being able to talk to my passenger or riding buddy is easier than hand signals and easier to coordinate stops. GPS is great on long trips because it just kicks in my helmet without ever having to think about looking at something. I listen to music sometimes too and people can say what they will but after logging thousands and thousands of miles I have never had an issue with distraction. Depends on the person, new riders without experience shouldn't have any distractions.

All of the helmets I have seen that have them built in are cheap so a unit like the SENA is the way to go because you can move it from helmet to helmet or get a couple mounts and move it around. Works great on my offroad helmet too for when I'm out in the middle of nowhere. If I wreck and break all of my limbs I can still voice command my way to 911 to get help.
Have the same unit bought for my solo cross country trip to use for navigation. I can only agree with what is said here and add that battery life is great.
 

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I never had one because I am self entertaining.......always singing a song or something stupid to keep me entertained.

With that said I know a few HAM radio operators who utilize Bluetooth with VOX to operate their radios while riding. I've had many conversations from my station to HAMs riding and it was surprisingly clear from their end. Every now and then you will hear in their voice what I call "vibrato" but very minimal. When I finally get my touring bike I am going to get the same setup for my radio.
 

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Ok, so I picked up a set of bluetooth earbuds yesterday afternoon for a couple of reasons. I wanted to see if I even liked having something other than the road in my ear while I ride, and if I don't, I can use them for running, phone calls, etc. Here's what I found out:

1: The ride is a lot more pleasant without the sound of my exhaust drone being quite so loud. The previous owner of my bike put an aftermarket exhaust on it, and I just never realized how loud it is. The buds function as pretty good ear plugs.
2: I don't find some quiet music distracting. I wouldn't want it in the city, but for my commute, it's quite lovely.
3: I don't immediately like the isolated feeling that the "ear plug" feature gives you. I feel like if a car were screeching to a stop behind me, I'd want to know about it sooner than the plugs would allow.

So i guess I'll start looking for a helmet with a system built in. I need a new helmet anyway, and the buds are cool but w the built in speakers, I'll have the option of earplugs also. Maybe after a couple more days riding with the buds in, I'll have more input.
 

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look at the scala rider GX9 1 mile range in if is sight and yes the go that far plus I have the mic and speakers set up in three different helmets so i just change the module from helmet to helmet and the speakers sound great, it also has FM raido. I have a nolan with the built in system and changed it to the scala. I've been running them for two and a half years in my and my girlfriends helmets with no problems and they are voice activated. When hooked to my Iphone I can even get directions while driving. I would stay away from the built in systems, check reviews and do some research that is how I picked the scalas plus all Bluetooth systems do not talk to each other. I picked my set (2 paired units) for 380.00 on Ebay. I've been touring Euroupe with them the for the last year and a half and they have seen ice, snow and rain and plenty of abuse

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look at the scala rider GX9 1 mile range in if is sight and yes the go that far plus I have the mic and speakers set up in three different helmets so i just change the module from helmet to helmet and the speakers sound great, it also has FM raido. I have a nolan with the built in system and changed it to the scala. I've been running them for two and a half years in my and my girlfriends helmets with no problems and they are voice activated. When hooked to my Iphone I can even get directions while driving. I would stay away from the built in systems, check reviews and do some research that is how I picked the scalas plus all Bluetooth systems do not talk to each other. I picked my set (2 paired units) for 380.00 on Ebay. I've been touring Euroupe with them the for the last year and a half and they have seen ice, snow and rain and plenty of abuse

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That's good info. Thank you.
 

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Sena 10U initial impressions

My GT Air is speakerless right now, I'm awaiting a new Sena unit which is built specifically for the GT Air and is all internal, no snap-on module on the side.
Alrighty then, so the Sena 10U was waiting for me when I got back in town earlier this week. I installed it in my GT Air and have ridden with it a couple times. No complaints about the main unit, it fits the helmet pretty well, as to be expected, it was designed to fit after all. Volume seems about the same as my SMH10. The first ride I took was with no earplugs and I could hear a bit of hissing when listening to music, not sure what that was all about but today riding in with earplugs I couldn't hear it. I haven't figured out how to work all the features yet and it was a little annoying at first in that the beeps when a button was pressed were F'ING LOUD and the music wasn't. Actually it was a lot annoying. Turns out I have to turn up the volume on the phone when playing music, now the beeps are more appropriately loud compared to the music but still a bit over the top. I'm hoping there's a setting to turn them off.

Anyway, yeah, the main unit works about like I expected and fits the helmet well. Now on to the remote.

Since this is pretty much an internal fit to the helmet there are no external controls. The only buttons on it are behind the face shield, you can control everything with them but you have to have the shield open to do it and remember a bunch of different button combinations for the various functions. Normal operation is through a handlebar mounted remote. And... I am NOT a fan of the remote. It's a spring loaded gizmo that fits loosely on a 7/8 (22mm) bar. They include a couple rubber tubes to put on the bars if the fit is loose but come on. Every bike I've ever owned has had 7/8" bars and this fits loose on them? Rubber tubes? Seriously? I'm supposed to pull the grip and the switchgear to slide the rubber parts on? I ended up attaching it over the wiring which snugged it up a little but it still moves around on the bars. It has a joystick and two small buttons, one on the front and one on the back. The front button is ok but I'm not sure I can get to the back one easily. The joystick works ok but makes that god awful beep every time you touch it. And to skip songs you have to press and hold it, I'd much prefer you just bump it since the damn thing moves when you push the stick to the side. Try to skip a song, get a few beeps instead, and then the whole thing moves and you have to push the joystick again and get the beeps and hope it doesn't move.

To sum it up, the main unit is fine, but the remote pretty much sucks. For just listening to music it'll work out fine. If I can change the settings to the damn thing doesn't beep every time I touch a control I'll be a lot happier. And if I can figure out how to mount the remote so ti doesn't move around I'll be happier... but over all I'd like an option with a more permanent mount for the controls on the bars.
 

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Great info. I've since bought a bluetooth compatible helmet, but haven't pulled the trigger on a unit yet. I'm interested to know if you get the beep situation resolved.
 

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I have a Sena SMH5, which is a slightly older no frills model. There's the smh9 and a 10 out now, and they have one with a camera. The more you pay the more daisy-chaining together you can do.

It is the greatest thing since sliced bread. If you ride with a couple of friends regularly, it's almost essential. The Bluetooth is seamless, they link up easily and they just flat out work.

I rode for several years with a Motocom set up with GMRS radios, and they were always spotty, garbled and required 8 million different cords. I probably still have it if anyone wants to go old skool.

Get one.
 
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