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I've seen it done on other forums where a guy will post progress pics of a project. Others follow along and give him words of encouragement. These encouraging words inspire him to get off his lazy ass, bundle up in his carhartt's, and bravely trundle over to his unheated shop space in the dead of an Ohio winter to work (and, dare I say, to dream)…

So here's what I got so far:

Mock up:


Mock up:


Frame stripped and ready for sandblasting:
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160 triple trees are also now off to have the 160 stem removed and pressed into a set of 350 trees. Thanks for the advice on that one.

Let me know what you think and call me gay if I stop posting updates.




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And more progress…

CL450 wheel.

Need the hub, not the 19” rim so…





Got the bottom triple tree back (160 stem pressed/welded into 350 tree):





Rolled some strap to make a one-off-moped-tank-on-a-wee-race-bike tank locator:



Cut and shaped a subframe brace:



And cut and mocked up some high dollar race only super go fast clip ons (yep, those are pinch brackets off a junk 350 triple tree and cut off clubman bars):




Merry Christmas you Cheeseheads!

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Edited by - krapfever on Dec 25 2006 10:51:14 AM
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JB - I went to Ferodo's website and found that they will put new linings on CB350 brake shoes (along with many other bikes)... I think it was TT who mentioned that you do this work as well...is that true? If not, do you know anybody on the east coast that does it?

Yeller'
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Ask not what the wanker can do for you, but what you can do for your wanker!
JB - I went to Ferodo's website and found that they will put new linings on CB350 brake shoes (along with many other bikes)... I think it was TT who mentioned that you do this work as well...is that true? If not, do you know anybody on the east coast that does it?

Yeller'
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Ask not what the wanker can do for you, but what you can do for your wanker!
dude

don't waste time or money on that cb 350 hub..... no matter what linings you get ... it wont stop ya. been there did it , done it.... no good. might as well throw 400 bucks into the garbage can.

matt
dude

don't waste time or money on that cb 350 hub..... no matter what linings you get ... it wont stop ya. been there did it , done it.... no good. might as well throw 400 bucks into the garbage can.

matt
seat no. 2. What Monkey said about the brake. won't stop you from hitting a dear. (bwahahahahah)
seat no. 2. What Monkey said about the brake. won't stop you from hitting a dear. (bwahahahahah)
Nice job.

Man, I need to pick up a small bike to race with you guys in the 200 class.
Nice job.

Man, I need to pick up a small bike to race with you guys in the 200 class.
Rob - Get a cb175.


One of us, one of us...


Aaron
Rob - Get a cb175.


One of us, one of us...


Aaron
quote:Nice job.

Man, I need to pick up a small bike to race with you guys in the 200 class.

Yeah, in AHRMA its Grand Prix 200 Plus. From what I can tell the two strokers are the fast bikes in this class.

From the rulebook:

10.2.4 200 GRAND PRIX PLUS: This class combines a variety of engine designs and displacements, based on an index of performance. Eligible machines are listed below by make, model, displacement, and individual restrictions. Like-design models also are permitted. Displacement as noted below may not be increased beyond the allowable overbore. (See rule 9.7.2).
Aermacchi/H-D 250cc long-stroke (66mm bore x72mm stroke), wet clutch, original backbone chassis, maximum 30mm carburetor (i.e., up to 1965 only)
AJS/Matchless 250cc pushrod single, maximum 30mm carburetor
Ariel Arrow 250cc twin, original frame and forks, one 32mm or smaller carburetor
Benelli 250cc pushrod single, maximum 30mm carburetor
BMW R26 250cc single, maximum 30mm carburetor
Bridgestone 175cc twin, maximum 22mm carburetors
Bridgestone 200cc twin, maximum 20mm carburetors
BSA/Triumph 250cc single, maximum 30mm carburetor
Bultaco 125cc water-cooled GP TSS (round barrel only)
Bultaco 175cc air-cooled single (round barrel only), maximum 30mm carburetor
Bultaco 200cc air-cooled single, maximum 4-speed, maximum 28mm carburetor
Ducati 125, 160, 175, 200cc single
Hodaka 125cc
Honda CR110 (CR93)
Honda CB/CL 160, 175cc twin
Honda CA/CB 125, 160cc twin
Indian Arrow 250cc single, maximum 30mm carburetor
Moto Guzzi 250cc pushrod, maximum 30mm carburetor
MV 200cc “works” or replica single or twin
MV Augusta 250cc pushrod, maximum 30mm carburetor
Norton 250cc pushrod twin, maximum 30mm carburetor
Ossa 175cc, maximum 30mm carburetor
Parilla 250cc pushrod, maximum 30mm carburetor
Parilla 200cc production racer
Puch/Allstate 250cc split single, maximum one 32mm carburetor
Rumi 125cc flat twin
Triumph 200cc T20 Tiger Cub, maximum 250cc with allowable overbore; maximum 30mm carburetor
Villiers-based 250cc two-strokes such as Cotton, DKW, Greeves, maximum 32mm carburetor
Yamaha AS1 125cc twin (pre-1968), cast iron cylinders only
Yamaha CS3 and CS5, maximum 20mm carburetors or carburetor bore size
Yamaha CT1 175cc single (no Noguchi engine components), maximum 30mm carburetor
Yamaha YCS1 180cc twin (pre-1969), cast iron cylinders only, maximum 22mm carburetors.
10.2.5 REQUIREMENTS AND MODIFICATIONS FOR GRAND PRIX CLASSES
a) All GP class motorcycles must be fully GP kitted, with no lights, no starting mechanisms, no street equipment or associated brackets (factory-welded brackets may be retained if desired), low narrow handlebars (maximum width 32 inches). Fairings are encouraged.
b) Frame may be changed to racing type, though must be period type and style. (Refer to rule 9.7.3)
c) Front forks may be changed, though must be period type and style. “Ceriani” type may be no larger in diameter than 35mm, unless supplied as OEM on that motorcycle.
d) Period retrofit gearboxes are permitted (i.e., Quaife, Shaflieghtner). Maximum 6 speeds unless otherwise stated.
e) Front disc brakes are prohibited. Rear disc brakes are permitted, provided they are period equipment.
f) Magnesium engine cases are allowed in 500 Premier.
g) The number of valves in the cylinder head may not be increased or decreased from stock.
h) No more than one carburetor per cylinder.
i) All modifications must be consistent with the spirit of the class and period.
j) Appearance and workmanship of a reasonable standard shall be enforced.
k) Two-strokes must use silencers.
l) Maximum rim width WM3 in all GP classes.



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quote:Nice job.

Man, I need to pick up a small bike to race with you guys in the 200 class.

Yeah, in AHRMA its Grand Prix 200 Plus. From what I can tell the two strokers are the fast bikes in this class.

From the rulebook:

10.2.4 200 GRAND PRIX PLUS: This class combines a variety of engine designs and displacements, based on an index of performance. Eligible machines are listed below by make, model, displacement, and individual restrictions. Like-design models also are permitted. Displacement as noted below may not be increased beyond the allowable overbore. (See rule 9.7.2).
Aermacchi/H-D 250cc long-stroke (66mm bore x72mm stroke), wet clutch, original backbone chassis, maximum 30mm carburetor (i.e., up to 1965 only)
AJS/Matchless 250cc pushrod single, maximum 30mm carburetor
Ariel Arrow 250cc twin, original frame and forks, one 32mm or smaller carburetor
Benelli 250cc pushrod single, maximum 30mm carburetor
BMW R26 250cc single, maximum 30mm carburetor
Bridgestone 175cc twin, maximum 22mm carburetors
Bridgestone 200cc twin, maximum 20mm carburetors
BSA/Triumph 250cc single, maximum 30mm carburetor
Bultaco 125cc water-cooled GP TSS (round barrel only)
Bultaco 175cc air-cooled single (round barrel only), maximum 30mm carburetor
Bultaco 200cc air-cooled single, maximum 4-speed, maximum 28mm carburetor
Ducati 125, 160, 175, 200cc single
Hodaka 125cc
Honda CR110 (CR93)
Honda CB/CL 160, 175cc twin
Honda CA/CB 125, 160cc twin
Indian Arrow 250cc single, maximum 30mm carburetor
Moto Guzzi 250cc pushrod, maximum 30mm carburetor
MV 200cc “works” or replica single or twin
MV Augusta 250cc pushrod, maximum 30mm carburetor
Norton 250cc pushrod twin, maximum 30mm carburetor
Ossa 175cc, maximum 30mm carburetor
Parilla 250cc pushrod, maximum 30mm carburetor
Parilla 200cc production racer
Puch/Allstate 250cc split single, maximum one 32mm carburetor
Rumi 125cc flat twin
Triumph 200cc T20 Tiger Cub, maximum 250cc with allowable overbore; maximum 30mm carburetor
Villiers-based 250cc two-strokes such as Cotton, DKW, Greeves, maximum 32mm carburetor
Yamaha AS1 125cc twin (pre-1968), cast iron cylinders only
Yamaha CS3 and CS5, maximum 20mm carburetors or carburetor bore size
Yamaha CT1 175cc single (no Noguchi engine components), maximum 30mm carburetor
Yamaha YCS1 180cc twin (pre-1969), cast iron cylinders only, maximum 22mm carburetors.
10.2.5 REQUIREMENTS AND MODIFICATIONS FOR GRAND PRIX CLASSES
a) All GP class motorcycles must be fully GP kitted, with no lights, no starting mechanisms, no street equipment or associated brackets (factory-welded brackets may be retained if desired), low narrow handlebars (maximum width 32 inches). Fairings are encouraged.
b) Frame may be changed to racing type, though must be period type and style. (Refer to rule 9.7.3)
c) Front forks may be changed, though must be period type and style. “Ceriani” type may be no larger in diameter than 35mm, unless supplied as OEM on that motorcycle.
d) Period retrofit gearboxes are permitted (i.e., Quaife, Shaflieghtner). Maximum 6 speeds unless otherwise stated.
e) Front disc brakes are prohibited. Rear disc brakes are permitted, provided they are period equipment.
f) Magnesium engine cases are allowed in 500 Premier.
g) The number of valves in the cylinder head may not be increased or decreased from stock.
h) No more than one carburetor per cylinder.
i) All modifications must be consistent with the spirit of the class and period.
j) Appearance and workmanship of a reasonable standard shall be enforced.
k) Two-strokes must use silencers.
l) Maximum rim width WM3 in all GP classes.



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Anyway, here's some pics from the Rice Paddy yard last week:





Honest to God I found, like TEN cb160 engines but only one 175 (out in the weeds):





Junkyards are cool:







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Edited by - krapfever on Feb 07 2007 07:28:55 AM
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That 175 looks like a vert...was it?

I need a set of jugs off a CB200...not a CB200T...but an old school CB200 like 1974-76.

You should be a middle man for that place, get like 20% commission for selling stuff. I'll have you picking through that shit all day :)
JohnnyB
What do you mean by jugs? I've got a CB200T so I can't help but look in the picture of the 175, theres a 200 sitting right next to it.
By jugs I mean the cylinders.
That looks like a CB200T next to it judging by the cylinderhead covers.
JohnnyB
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That 175 looks like a vert...was it?

I need a set of jugs off a CB200...not a CB200T...but an old school CB200 like 1974-76.

You should be a middle man for that place, get like 20% commission for selling stuff. I'll have you picking through that shit all day :)
JohnnyB

JB, when you say 200T, you mean the venerable TwinStar?

Old CB200 shit he's got. In fact, when we were digging around I remember coming across some 200 jugs (didn't look too close at them). If you want a good set, I'll hand pick them and babysit them through shipping. I don't wanna go anywhere near money though. Sorry. Give the Paddy a call (614) 297 1404, ask for Tom, I'll let him know you're interested.

Man, we looked for 175 slopers for like an hour. All I found was the blue baby (CD175) posted above. Its a weird little bike. Looks like a sloper motor in an upright frame.







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Edited by - krapfever on Dec 28 2006 4:18:35 PM
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Never mind. CD's an upright (I just got fooled by the vintage fender and headlight). Yeah, he's got uprights. You can just see a CL on the right side of the pic. Other uprights in the barn too.



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I'll have to get in touch with him...maybe I'll call...or I think I have his email somewhere.
Yeah I need CB200 jugs...looks almost exactly like a CB175 vert....except a different clutch setup. Way different than the later model CB200T.
JohnnyB
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