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Because they suck. They don't share any parts with the 350, I think they also made less power. No one makes parts for them.
 

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mike did well on his. he used to pretty consistantly run in the top 3-5 with his in lwsv. even won a race or 2. he had a cam, carbs and porting from todd. with stock pistons. 550 front end with a disk. it was definitely alot faster then my stocker 350 when i rode it. mike would lift the rear wheel going into t3 with it. they are definitely heavier than the 350. the frame is much beefier. and actually there is alot available for them. just not big performance stuff like with the 350. there are aftermarket pipes avail and cams. no pistons though. they are legal for fcb in stock trim. im actally waiting to see someone drag one out and see how well it does there. the cj(?) had a 6 speed. and one had only kickstart. (cbt??) like the sl350. the valves are the same size. they also share the same cam chain. oh yeah and the rear wheel is the same. and the front early drum brake is the same as the 350. i think thats it though. the spark plugs might be the same too.

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mike did well on his. he used to pretty consistantly run in the top 3-5 with his in lwsv. even won a race or 2. he had a cam, carbs and porting from todd. with stock pistons. 550 front end with a disk. it was definitely alot faster then my stocker 350 when i rode it. mike would lift the rear wheel going into t3 with it. they are definitely heavier than the 350. the frame is much beefier. and actually there is alot available for them. just not big performance stuff like with the 350. there are aftermarket pipes avail and cams. no pistons though. they are legal for fcb in stock trim. im actally waiting to see someone drag one out and see how well it does there. the cj(?) had a 6 speed. and one had only kickstart. (cbt??) like the sl350. the valves are the same size. they also share the same cam chain. oh yeah and the rear wheel is the same. and the front early drum brake is the same as the 350. i think thats it though. the spark plugs might be the same too.

sorry, couldnt help myself.

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does mike still have his? i'd like to match race him on it with my bike to see which one is faster.

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does mike still have his? i'd like to match race him on it with my bike to see which one is faster.

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i think he just got it back from jack booths son. but its pretty much dead i think. (seized big end bearing??) it was a pretty fast motorcycle and smooth and quiet. and actually very reliable. i actually liked riding it because it was so smooth and comfy. i think it being heavier made it feel more stable. and of course it sat quite a bit lower than my bike. and it has good brakes. i mean, it may have looked like a turd, but they won thier class in the endurance race on it that one year and took second over all, mike did win a few races on it, he ran at the top of the field with it every time he was out on it, and everyone and thier brother rode it. not to mention it was crashed nonstop. they definitely arent as easy to hop up as the 350's are because the parts really arent out there, but to me, if youre not a decent rider, alot of horsepower isnt going to help all that much. more than likely it'll just get you into trouble. so ungas right actually, but i wouldn't discourage anyone from running one because i know mike did pretty good on his. and stock they are legal for fcb now.

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i think he just got it back from jack booths son. but its pretty much dead i think. (seized big end bearing??) it was a pretty fast motorcycle and smooth and quiet. and actually very reliable. i actually liked riding it because it was so smooth and comfy. i think it being heavier made it feel more stable. and of course it sat quite a bit lower than my bike. and it has good brakes. i mean, it may have looked like a turd, but they won thier class in the endurance race on it that one year and took second over all, mike did win a few races on it, he ran at the top of the field with it every time he was out on it, and everyone and thier brother rode it. not to mention it was crashed nonstop. they definitely arent as easy to hop up as the 350's are because the parts really arent out there, but to me, if youre not a decent rider, alot of horsepower isnt going to help all that much. more than likely it'll just get you into trouble. so ungas right actually, but i wouldn't discourage anyone from running one because i know mike did pretty good on his. and stock they are legal for fcb now.

jc



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Everything Joe says is almost true. Good job Joe. Actually the engines do have a lot of potential but no one makes real speed parts for them. In the day Powroll made a couple different big bore kits for them but I was never able to find any. Todd did the head on mine and it takes the same valves he used on the 350 heads. If someone wants to go halvsies with me we could try to get JE or someone to make some high compression pistons. Megacycle does make a cam for it but only one. It seemed to be ok for road race type power. I used the CJ as the base bike because on the no electric starter so I didn't have to plug any holes. The CJ had a 5 speed but the 6 speed CB trans just drops in. You need to change everything though not just the gears. I think the CJ frame is a little stiffer too. There are only minor differences but I thought they were significant. It is in my basement waiting till I return from Arizona to start my retirement and then it should be back running.

Tex..... see you next year.

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Everything Joe says is almost true. Good job Joe. Actually the engines do have a lot of potential but no one makes real speed parts for them. In the day Powroll made a couple different big bore kits for them but I was never able to find any. Todd did the head on mine and it takes the same valves he used on the 350 heads. If someone wants to go halvsies with me we could try to get JE or someone to make some high compression pistons. Megacycle does make a cam for it but only one. It seemed to be ok for road race type power. I used the CJ as the base bike because on the no electric starter so I didn't have to plug any holes. The CJ had a 5 speed but the 6 speed CB trans just drops in. You need to change everything though not just the gears. I think the CJ frame is a little stiffer too. There are only minor differences but I thought they were significant. It is in my basement waiting till I return from Arizona to start my retirement and then it should be back running.

Tex..... see you next year.

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awesome mikey! enjoy az!

see you trackside!

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awesome mikey! enjoy az!

see you trackside!

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Everything Joe says is almost true. Good job Joe. Actually the engines do have a lot of potential but no one makes real speed parts for them. In the day Powroll made a couple different big bore kits for them but I was never able to find any. Todd did the head on mine and it takes the same valves he used on the 350 heads. If someone wants to go halvsies with me we could try to get JE or someone to make some high compression pistons. Megacycle does make a cam for it but only one. It seemed to be ok for road race type power. I used the CJ as the base bike because on the no electric starter so I didn't have to plug any holes. The CJ had a 5 speed but the 6 speed CB trans just drops in. You need to change everything though not just the gears. I think the CJ frame is a little stiffer too. There are only minor differences but I thought they were significant. It is in my basement waiting till I return from Arizona to start my retirement and then it should be back running.

Tex..... see you next year.

Mike O.
My girlfriend has a 1976 cj360T that I would occasionally ride. The CJ 5 speed, based on my personal observation, has a wider gear ratio than the cb360 6 speeds and seems to me like it would make an awsome road racing trans. I had the bike over at a buddy's shop and stock for stock in street trim my GF's cj360 was 35 lbs lighter than a 1972 cb350 a customer brought in (we used bathroom scales under each wheel so I don't know how accurate it is).
The CJ was one of the few 360 hondas that still had a drum front wheel (I think the SL is the other one) as late as 1976.


Edited by - geeto67 on Aug 25 2006 10:59:19 AM
 

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If you're thinking of racing it I would seriously think about dumping the front end and get something with 35mm tubes. You can run a 450 drum front end and its just a matter of switching out the triple clamps and doing it.

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Mike,
If you see me at Granite St....remind me, I found a spare key for that SV650 while I was cleaning the shop. I'll give it to you to pass along to the present owner.
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