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so here is my build. she started as a old storage unit find and i brought her back to life. i rebored her and rejet to pod filters and a full cleaning. i still have the decals to put on and the front fender i need to cut, tig weld, and paint. but she is running pretty good right now still a little tunning but thats all. please tell me what you think this is my first build. i will have a small computer i am adding for tach and speed but not finishing programming and wiring board, but it will be very hidden to give it the clean look. but as i side please give me input everyone thansk again. image.jpg image4.jpg image3.jpg image2.jpg 580499_10201026184043589_1051501869_n.jpg 576706_10201019503836588_51331586_n.jpg 576041_10201019504876614_939488026_n.jpg 544378_10201026191243769_2076266348_n.jpg 479862_10201003915526890_309890981_n.jpg 429588_10201003913486839_696279073_n.jpg photo.jpg photo2.jpg
 

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I have a transparent and black checkers flag strip for the tank and black honda with the wing decals for it too,then have cut and shortened the front fender and painting it yellow too with my intials airbrushed in small cursive on the back. The tank is some tank I found that I hand dented in to, was an experiment that worked. Please give me some input, I also obviously have not installed the leather on seat.
 

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my input:

-FORGET the checkers. Please.
-point the headlight forward. Where this idiotic fashion came from i have no clue but it hurts my eyes.
-put inner fender in the rear. Some kind of flat plate will do but you need something to stop the sand and crap from being thrown at the engine and the sub quality air filters.
-look at you air filters against the sun. They look like useless emgos, they don't filter much anything. At least get decent foam filters - preferably airbox so you can actually jet the bike right.
-get on the bike and realize how clip ons with stock pegs results in a monkey posture that is not comfortable or encourage control. Either get rear sets or a higher bar.
-if you stick with low bars (and rear sets) get the cables and brake hose worked out so they don't hang like that.
-get better tires
-front fender is smart. really. Rear is a must, front is smart. If no fender in front (even with it) get a fork brace.


2 things that are too late but I will say anyway:
-chopping the rear frame like that is not clever imo but if done at least connecting the left and right shock mount would have been good
-I am definitely not a fan of the knee dents (in general or here). that being said they look good in proportion but the edges are vague and varying radii so it looks a bit sloppy.

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-what is the plan on the taillight/blinkers and the plate?
-how is the bike working mechanically? does it run well - read about pod filters and jetting here. Are the forks and shocks in good shape? Suspension on old bikes sucks so usually any improvements there are valuable.
 

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Pretty much everything Kerosene said. You going to fit gaiters or dust seals on those forks?...keeps the sand, dust, mud and crud out. If you gotta have checkers...well, that's a personal choice, but ditch the stickers and paint them on.
You might want to check your local regulations in terms of lights, fenders etc.
Never say 'finished'...there's always something else you want to do, some improvement you want to try, but you're off to a decent start.
 

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I like the yellow!
Everything Kerosene said...
I like the engine paint!

Im trying something called a constructive criticism sandwich....

Can I see a close up from the top of the triple?
 

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Thanks everyone. Ok so for the first few inputs, I think I may lay the checkers on and get an idea but for the headlight that is when I just installed it. Like secs after so was not adjusted yet haha. For the rear fender, I was thinking about installing a rear small piece of sheet metal to protect the engine. I got to add in here everyone that this bike is for very short distances like 4 miles max( girlfriend hates it beyond believe and would break it if comes to much of a habit again) haha. For the pegs, what is on is temp. I am in the middle of fabbing new ones that will move the shifter and brake back too. I knew that from the start that they look wierd riding and uncomfortable. And what's wrong with the tires I have now? I know some people don't like the knee dents but I do just kind of me. Now for the pods, I know that the ones I have on it are shitty ones, I bought them when I was not planning on redoing this much of the bike. So if you got suggestion on those please hit me up. Mechanically she is running great, start at 3 kick usually or right up if electric and idling consistently. I got a little adjustment of pilot screw but that's it. For suspension the Rear is ok, another thing To replace when money comes in as a poor college student but I re sealed the forks and they are great. Now for the next person. Goldy you are totally right I can never call in finished or close to it there will always be something else but for brake lights I gave then already wired in rear with seat you can see in a pic. And turning signals only in rear and we will see if I keep them, I live in a really small town were no cop would care at all. And jope7 I will get right on that pic and thank you. Thanks everyone if you got more input or advice please tell me, your right it's not close to finish but looks like a bike now hope you guys like the look obviously its how the creator designed it is how he liked it. Thanks again
 

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haha they were proably a little to big in lenght but the pictures becuase of the shadowing of inside make it look uneven but they and almost perfect. there is only one little bump and i am fixxign that when i repaint it. the pictures make them look really shitty especially around the edges but those parts are perfect.
 

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Sorry, but that tank is fucked up, son. No provocation intended. I'm just following the venerable caferacer,net tradition of being straight with you. Our tradition of not blowing smoke up your ass.

What's wrong with the knee dents? Well, let's start with the workmanship. Look at the upper edge of the knee dent (just below the gas cap). You carried the knee dent too far up into that area, and went a little too deep there. The error stands out like a sore thumb, since the upper line of the tank and the upper line of the knee dent don't correspond.

Also, knee dents in general just suck great big donkey dicks. They add nothing to the function of your bike unless they allow you to tuck in better. They are useless on your bike: they would not allow you to ride with your knees any closer together because the rear of the cylinder head is wider than the tank. They are the café racer equivalent of a huge spoiler and "fart can" on a old Honda Civic. A sorry attempt at "customizing", or "making it your own". Experienced builders can spot it immediately as amateur hackery. So don't do that anymore.

What to do? Ditch the tank. If I were you I'd look for a decent original CB450 tank. Or if you have a few extra clams, buy a racing style (longer) tank from one of the aftermarket tank makers.
 

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Narwhal, you are a glutton for punishment. This is the second time you've introduced this bike to us. I like it. I still think that a cb450 tank and petcock would serve you better.

Here's a tough question for you (which means, its a time to shine or a time to hang your head). What have you changed or done since the last time you posted. If you haven't made any improvements based on solid advice from last time you posted then why should I waste the effort on your build now? This was the guy with no petcocks and I was guessing where "slo" was.
 

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Ya I reposted it because of being lost in the pages sorry about that. but I did take the advice and installed inline fuel filters with inline fuel shut off valves on each side and a tube to each to balance out the fuel. Today I started cutting down my old rear fender because who ever suggested it was right I should do that. And still waiting some advice on better pods? But for the cb450 tank I know you guys tell me that but I just don't like them for cafe racer tank at all! They are so big. As I have said this bike is primarily looks and my first bike build. I personally like my tank I know a majority of you guys hate it but I don't give a shit I think it looks good and everyone I have talked to in person likes it. I didn't have many choices I don't have the money or really want to buy one of those fiberglass tanks or a long tank being as they are a bunch of dollars!.
 

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Here are the too issues:

- "As I have said this bike is primarily looks" <-- this misses the point of this hobby. You might as well be building a chopper. People who ride adventure bikes aren't doing it strictly for looks (those GS1200s are some of the ugliest bikes out there), neither are touring bike guys, the dirt bike guys, or any other genre of useful motorcycle. Doing it for looks forgoes the riding enjoyment of an improved motorcycle for some other vain reason and that is just cheating everyone involved but yourself most of all. Just because you think doing it for looks is a good reason doesn't mean it actually is one, most of us consider it shameful and a cop out.

- Knee dents. Ah....where to begin....Ok, I don't know how this trend got started but bashing knee dents into a stock tank is about as useless and dumb a mod as you can get. Why? well for starters, most riders can't use them. You aren't' physically making anything narrower, your leg is still limited buy the bottom edge of the tank and the frame rail. When the factories did it on bikes from the mid 1970's onward, the bottom of the tank was always narrower as well. In those bikes from the 1960s that had them, well, those bikes had knee pads and they fell off or the factory neglected to put them on but didn't change the design. How else do they suck? well you can lose up to a gallon of capacity in a tank bashing it in like that. Didn't think about that did ya? on a bike that is a significant amount of fuel, cuts your range down by 1/3 to 1/4. BTW, it doesn't save you any weight because you haven't removed any metal from the tank and usually use a metric shit ton of filler to cover it up. Are there good knee dents? sure, the kinds that ADD capacity to a tank. you don't see them as much because it is 5 times the work and most noobs don't understand there is actually a reason behind some modifications besides looks. If you make your tank hold 5 gallons (the unofficial historical standard size for IOM TT bikes and endurance racers) you are going to need a way of doing it where it won't make the bike wider where the rider sits. But this idea that you can make your bike look "older" just by bashing in the stock tank - that will forever be a poseur mod and one of those things (like clubman bars and stock pegs) that is a clear signal that the builder doesn't understand fast motorcycles.

as far as the filters go - there is a post that may be lost in the tech section now about the different filters and why some suck and others do not and what to look for. The basics are that you want an attachment rubber that does not block or restrict airflow (like a emgo does) but one that has a taper like a velocity stack (like some K&Ns do and like the stock airbox did).
 

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Ya I reposted it because of being lost in the pages sorry about that. but I did take the advice and installed inline fuel filters with inline fuel shut off valves on each side and a tube to each to balance out the fuel. Today I started cutting down my old rear fender because who ever suggested it was right I should do that. And still waiting some advice on better pods? But for the cb450 tank I know you guys tell me that but I just don't like them for cafe racer tank at all! They are so big. As I have said this bike is primarily looks and my first bike build. I personally like my tank I know a majority of you guys hate it but I don't give a shit I think it looks good and everyone I have talked to in person likes it. I didn't have many choices I don't have the money or really want to buy one of those fiberglass tanks or a long tank being as they are a bunch of dollars!.
There you go. You'll be a lot happier in life if you ignore what other people think (mostly) and do what makes YOU happy.
I think it looks just fine, not perfect, but ok for a first try.
The bike looks GREAT IMO>
Keep up the good work and keep learning. ;)
 

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There you go. You'll be a lot happier in life if you ignore what other people think (mostly) and do what makes YOU happy.
I think it looks just fine, not perfect, but ok for a first try.
The bike looks GREAT IMO>
Keep up the good work and keep learning. ;)
i suppose it is a moot point then that nobody cares what you think. ;)
 

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I care.
I care very deeply.
Even lost sleep over what geeto thinks of me.

ill never understand the mentality of a troll...
say a site sucks but continue to read and post....
 
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