[JB]

aiight, so i'm tired of the 650 marking its teritorry on the bottom of my pant legs so i ordered a gasket kit. not very familiar with bike motors, i'm an air coole vw guy (although i fucking hate that "scene" i still like the cars, but then again, i don't like any other fucker's car but mine.. ah, frustration) and besides the fact that it's air cooled, well, i'd be more comfortable taking the thing appart and changing the gaskets if the pistons were doing each other sideways instead of standing up.

anyway, how do y'all feel about changing the cam chain while i'm at it. i ask cause, well, i know it's supposed to be semi normal to hear the engine click but maybe it's too much.. i'm not sure, i don't know, that's why i'm asking.

CB650, FauxCatiFT500

 

[fuzzybutt]

if it's apart i would, new cam chain is cheap insurance. i'm an air cooled vw person myself btw. trying to find an affordable fixer upper right now

 

[Judeyramone]

I got hooked on Beetles when I bought my (running) '73 for $100 in 1987. Drove it for 8 mos & sold it for the same when I went off to boot camp. Most fantastic car ever built, the Beetle. Also had a rust free '61 in TX. I'd love to get another, but prices have gone thru the roof. Last time I saw one for sale around here, asking price was $5k and it was nothing to write home about.

 

[fuzzybutt]

i looked at a 72 sunroof car yesterday, bad floors, rust around the sunroof, rusty doors, rusted out heater channels, no motor OR trans 2k
it sold today

 

[texmawby]

i restored my 74 superbeetle to cherry condition. my sister begged me to lend it to her while in college. then one night she went to the "libary" to study for exams where coincidently there was a bartender serving drinks amongst the stacks........

let's just say i didn't get the beetle back in the condition i gave it.

friggin' sweet ride, wish i still had it.

texy

 

[texmawby]

jb,

sorry man. yeah, if your pulling the motor to do gaskets. do a leak down/compression test too. that way if your down, you can do rings, replace cam chain, inspect the valves/adjust them, etc.....

i'm sure you have a factory service manual right?

tex

 

[JB]

nah, i can't find a factory manual for the 650 (got one for the FT).

i do have a bunch of microfiches that i havent gone to the library to check out yet. i guess i'll have to huh. and i have an aftermarket manual, whatever brand it is, i dont remember.






so, there's a bunch of VW guys here.... I’ve got a 74 standard that I purchased as a mistake really, and now, i'm being a perfectionist with the "restoration". takin' foreva!

CB650, FauxCatiFT500

 

[Judeyramone]

Ooooh! Pics, please.

 

[Judeyramone]

Oh, and Super Beetles don't count. Especially Stick-O-Matics.

 

[kenessex]

JB,
Enough of you VW nuts anyway!! But to your original question. There was a service bulletin by Honda on leaking head gaskets in the mid 80s, so we did lots at the dealership where I was the service manager. One thing to keep in mind, If you are only going to change the headgasket then you do not need to pull the engine. The head will come off with the engine in the frame. You can not pull the cylinders and do a base gasket with the motor in the frame. The manual will tell you that you have to pull the motor to do a head gasket. Not true.

Good Luck,
Ken

AHRMA 412
Vintage racing - old guys on old bikes

 

[joe c]

now thats good info!

jc

 

[JB]

GOOD! i am in no mood to pull that thing out....

pictures? are you shure you can handle it?


not so updated but pix none the less..... probably welding in the new nose this weekend cause i'll have no brunette with green eyes sucking up all my time....
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o237/helikesmyspace/DSCN1667.jpg

in this shot you can see the engine in the distance (rebuilt 1600 but with 87mm pistons so i guess it's around 1640/70cc?). i'm gathering parts for a dual carb set up using notchback intake manifolds.
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o237/helikesmyspace/vw/DSCN6447.jpg


CB650, FauxCatiFT500


Edited by - jb on Jun 20 2007 10:58:19 AM

 

[Judeyramone]

That body doesn't look too bad. You must be in the south somewhere. That brings back memories. It's about the same condition (but much, much less rust) as the '73 that was my only transportation for 8 mos.

 

[JB]

wooooaaaaaa no way! it "looks" ok from a picture like this but no f'n way sir!

i live in maryland where they salt the roads like you spread penut butter on your toasts. i mean, they go evil on them roads. so the rear passenger floors had to be replaces and the heater channels have been patched the fuck up on the inside by the previous owner. right where the heater channels end up by the rear wheel wells looked suspicious one day, so i took a hammer and screwdriver and poked it. turns out the guy before me stuck some latex gloves and put 2 inches of bondo to close up the massive hole there. fucking asshole! i still remember where he lives and i've wanted to go kick his ass more than once. the bottom of front nose was reshaped using an inch of bondo as well. one day i was putting the spare back in and CRACK it just split that bondo appart. it didnt go through but it was highly visible so i got a new nose to weld on now. but the problem is that the made in brazil nose is off by almost 1cm. so either i have to fit it differently or have a gap between the hood and the body. i'm going to try to get my 2 buddies over on saturday or sunday so we can fit the bitch right.

there you have it, it's about it really. once i'll have the nose done properly, i could lay down the primer on the body.



anyone interested in a shortened 69VW floor pan? the trans comes with it and if you want i've also got a 1600 engine appart for you to fit on or a corvair long block.

CB650, FauxCatiFT500

Edited by - jb on Jun 21 2007 08:38:43 AM

 

[JB]

can anyone recomend a good place for a cam chain? should i go OEM from a dealer?

CB650, FauxCatiFT500

 

[JB]

can anyone recomend a good place for a cam chain? should i go OEM from a dealer?

CB650, FauxCatiFT500

 

[JB]

is $144 for an OE cam chain too much? the stuff i find online seems to be not OE and adjustable and $50 cheaper.

CB650, FauxCatiFT500

 

[Ron Bullard]

Been into the aircooled VW scene since the early 90's. Had my bus since '92, had a squareback, a baja, built a Manx, a couple of performance 2-litre type 1's, one of which is in my bus right now. Same deal, still like my car but am sick of the scene. Quit driving my 40 year old VW to work, now I ride my 40 year old Honda to work.

Sorry, no cam chain advice. Just wanted to get in on the VW thing. Next...

Ron Bullard
[email protected]

http://springvinmoto.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=pdx_ron