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the tape on the headlight? does tech make you do that when your endurance races go into the night hours?
 

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I'd like to know why the OP would want to ride it and what makes Black Betty a "build"?

Too me it looks like another tired old Honda that needed money spent on maintenance and wear parts. The forks indicate they haven't been serviced, the shocks look original. What has been done to the bike other than the bars, switches and headlight?
 

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I'd like to know why the OP would want to ride it and what makes Black Betty a "build"?

Too me it looks like another tired old Honda that needed money spent on maintenance and wear parts. The forks indicate they haven't been serviced, the shocks look original. What has been done to the bike other than the bars, switches and headlight?
Mufflers may have been replaced with something that looks like it was pulled off of a truck or 70s Vette leg burners.
 

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Mufflers may have been replaced with something that looks like it was pulled off of a truck or 70s Vette leg burners.
JC Whitney specials all the way
 
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I'd like to know why the OP would want to ride it and what makes Black Betty a "build"?

Too me it looks like another tired old Honda that needed money spent on maintenance and wear parts. The forks indicate they haven't been serviced, the shocks look original. What has been done to the bike other than the bars, switches and headlight?
Picked up for 100$ and got her up and running. She needs some love but runs great. I am slowly revitalizing as time allows.
 

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DOT in both Canada and USA agree very close on turn signal lens size and physical location on the bike for safety reasons plus cops are not stupid about federal motorcycle DOT law regarding signal lighting requirements.
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Each turn signal lamp on a motorcycle shall have an effective projected luminous lens area of not less than 2,258 mm2 (3.5 square inches).
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Front Turn signals:
At or near the front, at the same height, symmetrically about the vertical centerline, and having a minimum horizontal separation distance (centerline of lamps) of 16 inches. Minimum edge to edge separation distance between a turn signal lamp and headlamp is 4 inches.
Rear Turn signals:
At or near the rear, at the same height, symmetrically about the vertical centerline, and having a minimum horizontal separation distance (centerline to centerline of lamps) of 9 inches.
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DOT in both Canada and USA agree very close on turn signal lens size and physical location on the bike for safety reasons plus cops are not stupid about federal motorcycle DOT law regarding signal lighting requirements.
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Here in Massachusetts Inspection stations now have to look for DOT one blinkers as to many people kept saying "I didn't see a blinker" now they have to check each blinker and if you are involved in an accident with Non-DOT blinkers the insurance company will not pay.
 

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DOT in both Canada and USA agree very close on turn signal lens size and physical location on the bike for safety reasons plus cops are not stupid about federal motorcycle DOT law regarding signal lighting requirements.
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Each turn signal lamp on a motorcycle shall have an effective projected luminous lens area of not less than 2,258 mm2 (3.5 square inches).
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Front Turn signals:
At or near the front, at the same height, symmetrically about the vertical centerline, and having a minimum horizontal separation distance (centerline of lamps) of 16 inches. Minimum edge to edge separation distance between a turn signal lamp and headlamp is 4 inches.
Rear Turn signals:
At or near the rear, at the same height, symmetrically about the vertical centerline, and having a minimum horizontal separation distance (centerline to centerline of lamps) of 9 inches.
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Blinkers aren't required in Texas, USA.....
 

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Do you know what federal law is?
DOT does not have jurisdiction over state vehicle codes. They have jurisdiction over vehicle manufacturers.
 

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Adherence to highway standards is what limits what I can buy to put on the road. It also makes it so I can drive that vehicle from Ontario to Texas to California to Alaska and home again, safely and legally the entire trip. That is important to me. Get into an accident with novelty lighting on your vehicle in place of street legal lighting and the law is going to rule against you.
 

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DOT does not have jurisdiction over state vehicle codes. They have jurisdiction over vehicle manufacturers.
yep, all states are different. just moved from nj (car inspection, no motorcycle) to SC ( no car or mc inspection). that doesnt mean you cant get a ticket for a “equipment” violation. in my experience if your licence and insurance is good the law doesnt look any further. unless your a dick to the cop
 

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Regardless of the law... the consideration of personal safety is pretty important. It's hard enough getting people to acknowledge or see you when you have FACTORY lighting/indicators. Reducing that margin of safety for perceived style is just reckless.
 

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Regardless of the law... the consideration of personal safety is pretty important. It's hard enough getting people to acknowledge or see you when you have FACTORY lighting/indicators. Reducing that margin of safety for perceived style is just reckless.
That's the whole point isn't it.
DOT is the engineering specifications behind public road use. Being written into federal law makes it the law of the land. In this case Canada and USA inclusive uses the same spec. Those half sized turn signal and tail lights that some like to put on their full sized motorcycles are only DOT approved for scooters that top out at 30mph. You hit a non-road worthy vehicle in the fog, dark or rain on the interstate or making a left turn in an intersection & law guarantees it's going to be his fault and liability not yours.
 
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