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the fact that you guys are talking about 2-stroke dirt bikes is a joke. especially for woods. Dylan Eustace and i rode some dirt this summer...he has a CR-125 and it really doesn't work that well for woods. he constantly uses the clutch, and he makes it work, but if there's one thing to be learned about dylan it's that just because he can do something doesn't mean you can too.
i've heard 250 4-stroke motocross bikes are good for the woods too, but as far as lights? i dunno about that.
i've got a KTM 450 EXC and it fuckin rocks in the dirt. it's a lot of power, but not too much...and just silly amounts of torque. it's also got lights for the street, and it comes with a dash setup that includes a speedo, odometer, clock, trip meter, and lots of other goodies. i've ridden it as a street bike and a dirt bike and i think it kicks ass. people insist that it's heavy for a woods bike, but i didn't find it to be that way at all.
beyond pitching my bike to everyone, i think 4-strokes are key. johnny, you can try my KTM out next spring and tell me if you still want "screaming hp".
so just to review: DON'T BUY A 2-STROKE WOODS BIKE. it just doesn't make sense.


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my bad my bad, 2-strokes still aren't as good.

 

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holy christ on a crutch, a 300cc two-stroke dual-sport KTM legal for the streets? you'd frighten some guys on GSXRs.
i'd recommend KTMs though, mine has been pretty good. i think joe's right about DRZs, i've heard good things about them. the street kits are pretty good for them too as far as i understand it. WRs are wimpy in my book, they just look wimpy don't they? i think the "WR" stands for Wimpy Ride. before you make too much fun of the WR though, you should think about how much road riding you want to do. my KTM's bad ass, but the seat is not for sitting on. do you want it street legal to get from trail to trail or to actually ride around?

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http://nedirtbikes.com/forum/classDetail.asp?id=1947

i like this one. light like a 250, but with some extra pop, and is probably ready for some lights and blinkers.

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HAHAHAHA...'pussy'. amen Rob.

if there ever was dirtbike that was made for putting scars on legs it would probly be that 300 EXC. buy a 4-stroke man, you wont regret it. and if you get a KTM i've got the hot tips for streeting them. i just did mine this last summer.
sounds like i've got new friends with places to ride too. party at JohnnyB's.

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HAHAHAHA...'pussy'. amen Rob.

if there ever was dirtbike that was made for putting scars on legs it would probly be that 300 EXC. buy a 4-stroke man, you wont regret it. and if you get a KTM i've got the hot tips for streeting them. i just did mine this last summer.
sounds like i've got new friends with places to ride too. party at JohnnyB's.

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easy Tony Hawk, this site's about motorcycles. i hear you about the jumps though. i like one wheel or the other to be in the air, but both is a little sketchy. i acutally did some jumps at Dylan's house this summer and it was really fun. he's got a powerline and a Bobcat, and he makes a mean tabletop. he's got one that's maybe 25' long...i was pretty intimidated, but after i hit it once i went back again and again.

Rob - if you're not going to ride on the road much get the KTM, it's worth the money. it comes stock with aftermarket-quality stuff like handlebars and chain/sprockets. plus it's more powerful and lighter than anything japan has to offer.

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easy Tony Hawk, this site's about motorcycles. i hear you about the jumps though. i like one wheel or the other to be in the air, but both is a little sketchy. i acutally did some jumps at Dylan's house this summer and it was really fun. he's got a powerline and a Bobcat, and he makes a mean tabletop. he's got one that's maybe 25' long...i was pretty intimidated, but after i hit it once i went back again and again.

Rob - if you're not going to ride on the road much get the KTM, it's worth the money. it comes stock with aftermarket-quality stuff like handlebars and chain/sprockets. plus it's more powerful and lighter than anything japan has to offer.

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Aaron - i would but Casey Stoner and i just don't get along. it's that or you got $30,000 i can borrow? the thing about the RS125s you and i have is they're made by honda for privateer use. in other words they make a bunch of bikes that are kinda like the ones the real guys use and sell them for $10k. but the legit honda 125s are up maybe 10hp and just plain tricked out...also about three times the money. most companies don't bother with selling GP bikes to the public, and KTM is one of those companies. i don't actually know what it costs, but i've heard somewhere between $30-$50,000 to get your hands on an actual 125 GP bike. Honda takes it a step further, they don't even trust their satellite teams with trick parts. they show up at the track with a trick rolling chassis and then they're met with a crate from HRC. they take the 52hp A-kit motor out of the crate, race the weekend, and then put it back in the crate and send it to HRC. again, that's second hand information, but it's from a good source (and yes, i made up the 52hp...just a guess).
long story short, i would love to ride a KTM 125, but i aint got enough of dat scratch. the other route is to find a dealer that seems to give half a shit about roadracing and see if they can use their pull to get a roadracer over to the states...and then sponsor me instead of someone better. assuming it would be a better bike than the one i've got, and if it was reliable, i'm pretty sure i could wrap up a CCS championship or two. i didn't miss by that far this year.
and joe had it right, KTMs are made in Austria. no i don't know why.

 

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Aaron - i would but Casey Stoner and i just don't get along. it's that or you got $30,000 i can borrow? the thing about the RS125s you and i have is they're made by honda for privateer use. in other words they make a bunch of bikes that are kinda like the ones the real guys use and sell them for $10k. but the legit honda 125s are up maybe 10hp and just plain tricked out...also about three times the money. most companies don't bother with selling GP bikes to the public, and KTM is one of those companies. i don't actually know what it costs, but i've heard somewhere between $30-$50,000 to get your hands on an actual 125 GP bike. Honda takes it a step further, they don't even trust their satellite teams with trick parts. they show up at the track with a trick rolling chassis and then they're met with a crate from HRC. they take the 52hp A-kit motor out of the crate, race the weekend, and then put it back in the crate and send it to HRC. again, that's second hand information, but it's from a good source (and yes, i made up the 52hp...just a guess).
long story short, i would love to ride a KTM 125, but i aint got enough of dat scratch. the other route is to find a dealer that seems to give half a shit about roadracing and see if they can use their pull to get a roadracer over to the states...and then sponsor me instead of someone better. assuming it would be a better bike than the one i've got, and if it was reliable, i'm pretty sure i could wrap up a CCS championship or two. i didn't miss by that far this year.
and joe had it right, KTMs are made in Austria. no i don't know why.