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No this is not an anti-EBay rant. Those are too easy.

Ever see an auction with a really low starting bid, and think you want the part? So you bid $1. Bad habit. Do it so that they'll stick out more in my ebay home page.

A week later, you get an email that you've won. Huh. $0.99 for each part. And $15 each shipping.

Well, motorcycle parts aren't light, so I won't bitch about the shipping. Things I didn't need, but might come in handy.

Now, if I can find a pair of RZ350 pipes that way...
 

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yeah, i do/did that too. i mainly do it when there is a reserve, and no bids yet. it's a crazy habit.....worse is when your drinking and bid. i've watched (and sweated) a few auctions on some real pieces of shit, just hoping someone would outbid me on it.

drinking and ebay don't mix.

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I agree, friends don't let friends bid drunk. I have a neighbor with a $300 Pabst Blue Ribbon sign. He drinks alone or I would've hid his password.
 

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I got a gas tank once for $5.

then he charged me $45.00 for shipping.

'Sfunny how low priced items always cost so much to ship... but high priced ones are usually cheaper, isn't it?
 

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well, gas tanks are expensive to ship because of size. When you get over a certain dimension, USPS and UPS start adding fees quickly.
 

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I've been doing that for a while now too. Kind of funny cause I laugh off the outbid notifications.
I was sweating when I bid on those XR100 motard wheels that JoeC outbid me on. Good deal but didn't know how to explain that to the wife at the time.

Glad that I'm not alone. BTW, I don't even bother to bid if shipping is unreasonable.
 

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well guys........ cheap cheap part or expensive shipping

you see, I fork over about 2 g's a month to those greedy blood suckers at ebay and paypal

ebay doesn't nail a seller for shipping fees

if the price of shipping and the price of the part added up makes sense

why should anyone care?
 

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i am also a fellow ebay hound! i have no clue how anybody restored anything before ebay came along! The new feedback system works pretty well for buyers (though hurts us sellers) and if you think the shipping fee is too much, you can rate that part of the deal seperately. i love that as a buyer, but hate that as a seller because bad ratings make your auctions cost more money to list. Ebay and Paypal (paypal especially) have quite a racket going, but its either put up with it, or never find what you need. so if you buy something and have to pay a rediculous amount for shipping, just give them 1 star in the shipping price category when you leave your feedback. Hackasaw is completely right though, i know where he is coming from as a seller. i have sold stuff that went much higher than i thought it would go, and i got railed with fees! but if you are trying to make $5-10 on shipping, dont ship it usps, because they put the price of the postage on the box...i have nailed several sellers like that!
 

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I have never had a buyer complain when it costs me 5 or 10 bucks more than they paid for shipping

Nor have I ever had one that ever even offered to pay any difference in shipping

the worst was a BMW engine to Thailand

got a quote from FedEx to Thailand

even though I gave them exact dimensions and exact weight and exact destination

once I delivered it to them

it was 186 more

I had to eat it

I think any buyer who is feels a seller, especially if the shipping calculator is working in a listing prior to a buyer bidding

is making too much money or treating them unfairly if the seller "makes" a few coins on shipping

needs to go bid on somebody elses listings other than my own

I've been known to carte blanch block prospective bidders who write me asking if I can send something some other way to save them 50 cents or 5 bucks on shipping an item

don't care to be trifled with on big buck items

the shipping costs are simply part of the transaction and just as often as I am in the black with shipping...... I go in the red too

so don't be petty about shipping...... it's a lot of hard work to do it well and do keep in mind that ebay and paypal rob sellers blind

I recently bought a memory card for 99 cents and was tickled the shipping on it was 19 bucks

good for that guy..... I got what I wanted for 20 bucks and ebay didn't bend him over past his ankles

of course paypal still smacks a seller for shipping

and that is wrong since they are owned by ebay
 

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Hang on to your hats gentlemen, the socialist republic of NY is now going to start collecting sales tax on items sold online. This means if your a NY'er and you buy something online, you'll have to pay sales tax. I'm not sure if this will work in the opposite way (your out of NY and you buy something from someone in NY online).

And again this year - the hooker tax failed to pass....Gee I wonder why?????

I'd just like to add we have the best politicians money can buy -
 

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For several years now you were supposed to pay sales tax on things bought out of state via mail order or internet. It's on the NYS income tax form.
I've yet to send them a penny after buying tons of stuff out of state.
It's pretty much uninforceable at this point. It would depend on cooperation of the sellers in other states...where NY laws have no power.
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yeah i realize that ebay and paypal have to make money to stay in business and as a business they want to make more, thats just common sense, but have you guys seen the fees when you convert currency? i do a lot of dealings with some guys in new zealand and australia, and paypal gets a mint when they "convert" the currency over. On the shipping stuff hack, i know what you are talking about. i mean, i go out of my way to drive to the USPS or fedex store to ship it and i have to buy boxes and tape and such, so yeah, i try to make enough to cover my troubles on doing that, but im not going to pay near full price for something and then get a $20 over what it cost shipping charge, i just go to a different seller. a lot of the stuff on ebay would be fixed if people just shopped around more. i haven't ever sold anything dirt cheap but made my profit off of shipping, but it seems like a great practice to get out of ebay's rediculous fees. i think they were trying to keep people from doing that in their last round of revisions, but it's not going to work. There are so many people who don't sell things on ebay and don't see where all the money is going, so its great to have the prospective from both sides. well...i better get back to ebay...i mean work...HAHAHA
 

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quote:Originally posted by texmawby

yeah, i do/did that too. i mainly do it when there is a reserve, and no bids yet. it's a crazy habit.....worse is when your drinking and bid. i've watched (and sweated) a few auctions on some real pieces of shit, just hoping someone would outbid me on it.

drinking and ebay don't mix.

texy
I bought my first RD350 drunk on ebay. Turned out to be a great bike.
 

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I find ebay to a good experience. I am a seller-250champ-and charge a "handling fee" to cover the cost of ebay and paypal fees. Nobody has complained. My feedback speaks for it self. I am also a buyer and have found some really good deals. I just decide how much an item is worth to me and bid accordingly. I win some and loose some. The fees are what they are and it's my choice if I want to play the ebay way.
 

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quote:Originally posted by bmartin

Hang on to your hats gentlemen, the socialist republic of NY is now going to start collecting sales tax on items sold online. This means if your a NY'er and you buy something online, you'll have to pay sales tax. I'm not sure if this will work in the opposite way (your out of NY and you buy something from someone in NY online).

And again this year - the hooker tax failed to pass....Gee I wonder why?????

I'd just like to add we have the best politicians money can buy -
I hate to tell you this but if you buy something online you are supposed to pay taxes on it. It has ALWAYS been the way since the days of mail order and paper catalogs. Online sales have never been tax free. Every state that has a sales tax requires that you pay it on online items.

The problem is how do you collect taxes on it. It is the buyer who is ultimately responsible for the tax. You can't use the out of state seller as your tax collector like the state does in brick and mortar stores because the seller is not subject to your jurisdiction. And if your seller is in NY but the buyer is out of state then the state is not entitled to the tax. Because of the enforcement problem the states have kind of left it alone. Louisiana began enforcing it's laws a couple of years ago and it failed miserably, there is just no enforcement mechanism for this sort of thing that will ensure tax collection.

The states have been trying to get places like ebay to do their tax collecting for them but ebay is not required by law.

it will be interesting to see if NY (or any other state) can figure out this age old problem.
 

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not only do I disagree but you may want to do a bit of research on the "streamlined sales tax" legislation which has been being hammered away at for quite some time now

and with all sales taxes, it is actually the responsibility of the seller to collect it and hand it over to the states, which is exactly how this currently proposed legislation does it as well

and if you read the bits about "interstate commerce" in the Constitution of the USA

you'll realize such a tax is not constitutional

quote:Originally posted by Geeto67

quote:Originally posted by bmartin

Hang on to your hats gentlemen, the socialist republic of NY is now going to start collecting sales tax on items sold online. This means if your a NY'er and you buy something online, you'll have to pay sales tax. I'm not sure if this will work in the opposite way (your out of NY and you buy something from someone in NY online).

And again this year - the hooker tax failed to pass....Gee I wonder why?????

I'd just like to add we have the best politicians money can buy -
I hate to tell you this but if you buy something online you are supposed to pay taxes on it. It has ALWAYS been the way since the days of mail order and paper catalogs. Online sales have never been tax free. Every state that has a sales tax requires that you pay it on online items.

The problem is how do you collect taxes on it. It is the buyer who is ultimately responsible for the tax. You can't use the out of state seller as your tax collector like the state does in brick and mortar stores because the seller is not subject to your jurisdiction. And if your seller is in NY but the buyer is out of state then the state is not entitled to the tax. Because of the enforcement problem the states have kind of left it alone. Louisiana began enforcing it's laws a couple of years ago and it failed miserably, there is just no enforcement mechanism for this sort of thing that will ensure tax collection.

The states have been trying to get places like ebay to do their tax collecting for them but ebay is not required by law.

it will be interesting to see if NY (or any other state) can figure out this age old problem.
 
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