Ford Vs. Chevy??
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My dad got a mid-90s Dodge last year. 6 cylinder diesel, 20+ mpg, utility body. He's happy.
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Scott,
I got rid of my E150 and got a '98 Ford Ranger 3.0 4x4, found out after the fact that the tranny is light duty, can't plow with it. Even the F150 is light duty plowing only. Seems like if you want a good plow truck you're looking at a 3/4 ton.
I didn't really want to plow anyway, just haul a couple racebikes and not get stuck in the winter. If I could have found a decent Tacoma for under $5 grand I would've bought it in a heartbeat, but anything that old is too rusted away up here.
So yeah, for even money I'll go with a Toyota for a "small" truck, for the big stuff I'd just go with the best deal.
FR
I got rid of my E150 and got a '98 Ford Ranger 3.0 4x4, found out after the fact that the tranny is light duty, can't plow with it. Even the F150 is light duty plowing only. Seems like if you want a good plow truck you're looking at a 3/4 ton.
I didn't really want to plow anyway, just haul a couple racebikes and not get stuck in the winter. If I could have found a decent Tacoma for under $5 grand I would've bought it in a heartbeat, but anything that old is too rusted away up here.
So yeah, for even money I'll go with a Toyota for a "small" truck, for the big stuff I'd just go with the best deal.
FR
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i don't know what the fuss is all about (re: dodge).
evil,
i have a 1986 dodge van for sale. hell i'll get the blow torch out and make it into a pickup for you ($1500). would even put your shocks in it and deliver it for $200.00 in gas/tolls. see i need the money as i'm saving up for a benz-sprinter!
tex
evil,
i have a 1986 dodge van for sale. hell i'll get the blow torch out and make it into a pickup for you ($1500). would even put your shocks in it and deliver it for $200.00 in gas/tolls. see i need the money as i'm saving up for a benz-sprinter!
tex
fuck all ya'lls. dude, do yourself a favor and buy a tundra. and im pretty sure they have a 10 cyl comming. my buddies tundra will destroy my 3/4ton 350. the thing humps. if youre looking for used, the t100 is really tough to find, but they are great trucks. only 2wd though. you can get a base 4x tundra with a 270hp v8, and full size bed, for about 20. dont bother with the trd package. you can get the shocks and bash plate for less than the dealer will sell you the package for.
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Sheee-it! My 01' Dodge/Cummins will pull any of your trucks into the woods and have its way with them.
Seriously, don't buy a 1500 anything unless you're just using it to take the garbage to the dump on Saturday. A lot of the parts they use in the 1500 series are car parts. Buy at least a 2500 as those are real trucks.
More than brand, when it comes to older iron, is condition. They were all comparable and they all used a lot of gas. Don't buy a 4 by 4 unless you need it.
New truck picks are tough. Currently, GM's aren't what they used to be and the skins on them are like aluminum beer cans. Dodge with the Cummins and the 6 speed are real good(auto transmissions are okay for light duty, but buy the extra warranty just in case, as I did), and you'll get around 18 to 20 mpg and have some big power. The Hemi's got plenty, but they are thirsty. Fords got the chassis, very good frame, solid truck, but their diesels are suspect. I never liked V8 diesels as diesels do better as in-line 6's and the Cummins are bullet proof. You can find older Dodges with the Cummins at reasonable prices ($8500). However, I wouldn't buy one with an automatic unless it had been recently rebuilt, and if it has the 5 speed, check to see how the truck was used (the 5 speeds have a tendency to spin the main shaft nut off with "heavy" use).
Plow trucks have had a hard life, and trucks used in construction pulling around bulldozers and what have you, would be off my buy it now list. I'd look for a 2500 that has had one (preferably) or two owners and has a known history of a soft life. BTW, Cummins are nicely broken in at 100,000 miles.
Good luck!
Dgy
Seriously, don't buy a 1500 anything unless you're just using it to take the garbage to the dump on Saturday. A lot of the parts they use in the 1500 series are car parts. Buy at least a 2500 as those are real trucks.
More than brand, when it comes to older iron, is condition. They were all comparable and they all used a lot of gas. Don't buy a 4 by 4 unless you need it.
New truck picks are tough. Currently, GM's aren't what they used to be and the skins on them are like aluminum beer cans. Dodge with the Cummins and the 6 speed are real good(auto transmissions are okay for light duty, but buy the extra warranty just in case, as I did), and you'll get around 18 to 20 mpg and have some big power. The Hemi's got plenty, but they are thirsty. Fords got the chassis, very good frame, solid truck, but their diesels are suspect. I never liked V8 diesels as diesels do better as in-line 6's and the Cummins are bullet proof. You can find older Dodges with the Cummins at reasonable prices ($8500). However, I wouldn't buy one with an automatic unless it had been recently rebuilt, and if it has the 5 speed, check to see how the truck was used (the 5 speeds have a tendency to spin the main shaft nut off with "heavy" use).
Plow trucks have had a hard life, and trucks used in construction pulling around bulldozers and what have you, would be off my buy it now list. I'd look for a 2500 that has had one (preferably) or two owners and has a known history of a soft life. BTW, Cummins are nicely broken in at 100,000 miles.
Good luck!
Dgy
the dealer is getting in a "lightly used" 60,000 mi 2002 F150 with the plow package with plow this morning. I'll go look at it . . ..
I've had my E350 for over two years now, a good truck, but I HATE VANS now. Just too big. And I want the extended cab so I can take the wife kid and dog along instead of saying no, you can;t go, there's no room. And I get the feeling that something is going wrong with it. I dont know what, but I have a feling. And the dealerr is giving me more than what I owe, and the van needs new tires before I go racing this summer. That's gotta be $900.00.
More anon . . .
s
I've had my E350 for over two years now, a good truck, but I HATE VANS now. Just too big. And I want the extended cab so I can take the wife kid and dog along instead of saying no, you can;t go, there's no room. And I get the feeling that something is going wrong with it. I dont know what, but I have a feling. And the dealerr is giving me more than what I owe, and the van needs new tires before I go racing this summer. That's gotta be $900.00.
More anon . . .
s
I'm on my 3rd Dodge van and I have found the 318 is one of the best motors I've owned. My first van was Karl Smolenskis and it had like 435000 on it. And when I gave it to another racer it was stilling running fine for its condition.
John I know its called a Sprinter, I fell in love them 5 years ago in Germany. And we'll see more of them as soon as the contract with FreightLiner is up. You have a trailer so what experience are you speaking from other then what you've heard from guys you work with. You work for CAT right... but aren't you in sales?
Aaron - Johns 2nd biggest fan
John I know its called a Sprinter, I fell in love them 5 years ago in Germany. And we'll see more of them as soon as the contract with FreightLiner is up. You have a trailer so what experience are you speaking from other then what you've heard from guys you work with. You work for CAT right... but aren't you in sales?
Aaron - Johns 2nd biggest fan
I've had three new GMC's...every three years I get one.
Most recently is my 2002 Sierra....not real happy with it. Like Doug says...Junk. Brake system has been a mess..about $1100 in parts a couple months after warranty ran out.
It's a 1500 and pulls my 7000 lb trailer 90mph no problem. I ordered it with the 4.8 V8 285hp, 3.73 Posi rear, shorbox, regular cab, 2WD, manual transmission...the whole thing was ordered specifically for pulling the trailer. and getting 15 mpg doing it. Get's 21 mpg empty.
But...the quality just isn't what it should be. My two previous GMC's where Sonomas.....the little truck....GREAT little truck. I ordered them with manual trannies, locking diffs and the 200+hp V6. I used to tow a covered trailer and a bed camper up to Mosport with it no problem. Ballsy little truck. And on both of them I never did a freakin thing in three years but change the oil. Not a single problem. Sold my last one to a guy down in PA....a couple weeks later he calls me up raving about how the truck still feels like brand new.
I'm in the market for a new truck now. Problem is the GMC I have fits the bill perfectly...just don't care for the quality. I'd like to try a ford or dodge but they just don't have the numbers I need. The little 4.8 vortec V8 in the GMC is just hard to beat for balls and MPG. I've considered a Titan (300hp) but their mileage is down around 16-17 mpg EMPTY. Also I have to special order my stuff....don't need 4WD, don't need luxury or extended cab. I just buy a truck to tow.
WHEN OH WHEN will the US sell a full size PU with like a 3.0 litre Diesel.....30 mpg and will tow 8,000 lbs...... I can live with that!
JohnnyB
Most recently is my 2002 Sierra....not real happy with it. Like Doug says...Junk. Brake system has been a mess..about $1100 in parts a couple months after warranty ran out.
It's a 1500 and pulls my 7000 lb trailer 90mph no problem. I ordered it with the 4.8 V8 285hp, 3.73 Posi rear, shorbox, regular cab, 2WD, manual transmission...the whole thing was ordered specifically for pulling the trailer. and getting 15 mpg doing it. Get's 21 mpg empty.
But...the quality just isn't what it should be. My two previous GMC's where Sonomas.....the little truck....GREAT little truck. I ordered them with manual trannies, locking diffs and the 200+hp V6. I used to tow a covered trailer and a bed camper up to Mosport with it no problem. Ballsy little truck. And on both of them I never did a freakin thing in three years but change the oil. Not a single problem. Sold my last one to a guy down in PA....a couple weeks later he calls me up raving about how the truck still feels like brand new.
I'm in the market for a new truck now. Problem is the GMC I have fits the bill perfectly...just don't care for the quality. I'd like to try a ford or dodge but they just don't have the numbers I need. The little 4.8 vortec V8 in the GMC is just hard to beat for balls and MPG. I've considered a Titan (300hp) but their mileage is down around 16-17 mpg EMPTY. Also I have to special order my stuff....don't need 4WD, don't need luxury or extended cab. I just buy a truck to tow.
WHEN OH WHEN will the US sell a full size PU with like a 3.0 litre Diesel.....30 mpg and will tow 8,000 lbs...... I can live with that!
JohnnyB
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My brother has also had a problems with his braking system. GM has lost him forever. Too bad. It's just a shame that the American builders don't "man the fk up" to what the competition is building. My, that Hoda Ridgeline is a handsome little rig, hmmm.
Dgy
Dgy
Somebody is going to wise up soon. The first company that sells a small diesel full size is going to clean up. Diesels are now the "Man's" truck. So it's a positive selling point these days AND..you get the balls you need AND the mpg. I think the time is right. I'd love a PU with a small inline six diesel. I bet the Japanese beat the US to the market with one. Probably going to be Nissan or Mitsubishi...they already make small diesels elsewhere.
US companies are doing real well in the quality and performance of many of their new cars....but with trucks they screwed up the same way they did with cars in the 70's. They relied on customer loyalty and their "Rep" as truck makers instead of keeping up with the quality of imports....you'd think they would have learned their lesson 30 years ago.
JohnnyB
US companies are doing real well in the quality and performance of many of their new cars....but with trucks they screwed up the same way they did with cars in the 70's. They relied on customer loyalty and their "Rep" as truck makers instead of keeping up with the quality of imports....you'd think they would have learned their lesson 30 years ago.
JohnnyB
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