Future lithium battery alternative?
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Do you have an E-Bike yet? I have yet to try an E-Bike but I think I would go for an Electric Motion Escape R given the chance to register and insure it as a motorcycle. To me this would be a perfect short commute and milk fetcher / slow speed neighborhood hooligan bike. Silent wheelies, stoppies, and back fence-line cruiser.
Do you have an E-Bike yet? I have yet to try an E-Bike but I think I would go for an Electric Motion Escape R given the chance to register and insure it as a motorcycle. To me this would be a perfect short commute and milk fetcher / slow speed neighborhood hooligan bike. Silent wheelies, stoppies, and back fence-line cruiser.
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Good friend has 2 E-pure race models. The thing that will initially prevent licensing one will be the tires, they are competition only tires in US and Canada. Their entire line is based on a trials competition motorcycle with some models including a removable seat. They are coming out with a one way drive system so the bike doesn't roll backwards on an up hill when you back off on the accelerator, that will be a good addition along with more flywheel weight which will make the clutch operation more predictable.
... They should get rid of the tick-over mode, that is a dangerous feature if the fly-by wire throttle sticks and sticking throttle on that bike is not unheard off, I already experienced that first hand. The clutch saved me from certain disaster.
Sodium battery should be called the Jules Verne battery, he predicted its existence in his 1865 science fiction 20,000 leagues under the sea.
Two things will differentiate a sodium battery from lithium, first it will be 3 times as heavy and also much larger in dimension to achieve comparable power outputs, so it is unlikely to completely replace lithium batteries where space and weight are a major consideration.
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From what i got talking with the dealer and research for rules in NY State the bike would make moped class A rules in NY. Change said tires to dot, ship a bike with the light kit plate I think they have already had for Europe, and set gearing at sale to limit output to 40mph instead of 43mph to meet class A moped restrictions. They could also let you limit it in software also. Register a moped. The dealer seemed to think it just about fits except that EM needs to submit a form to NY to certify it as a moped for road use. The specs fit also.Good friend has 2 E-pure race models. The thing that will initially prevent licensing one will be the tires, they are competition only tires in US and Canada. Their entire line is based on a trials competition motorcycle with some models including a removable seat. They are coming out with a one way drive system so the bike doesn't roll backwards on an up hill when you back off on the accelerator, that will be a good addition along with more flywheel weight which will make the clutch operation more predictable.
... They should get rid of the tick-over mode, that is a dangerous feature if the fly-by wire throttle sticks and sticking throttle on that bike is not unheard off, I already experienced that first hand. The clutch saved me from certain disaster.
Sodium battery should be called the Jules Verne battery, he predicted its existence in his 1865 science fiction 20,000 leagues under the sea.
Two things will differentiate a sodium battery from lithium, first it will be 3 times as heavy and also much larger in dimension to achieve comparable power outputs, so it is unlikely to completely replace lithium batteries where space and weight are a major consideration.
Thanks for posting that.
It does look promising. It would be a great step forward to be able to use the much more abundant minerals in batteries, especially the utility uses.
Size and weight may be an issue today but it isn't assured tomorrow. There aren't many things we needed to improve that we didn't and batteries will follow the trend.
In the late '80's my cell phone was bolted under the seat of the truck. Twenty years later I had a palm sized computer with a crystal clear, colour screen that was my phone and a camera and a word processor that could run for hours between charges and gave me access to all the knowledge of the internet.
It does look promising. It would be a great step forward to be able to use the much more abundant minerals in batteries, especially the utility uses.
Size and weight may be an issue today but it isn't assured tomorrow. There aren't many things we needed to improve that we didn't and batteries will follow the trend.
In the late '80's my cell phone was bolted under the seat of the truck. Twenty years later I had a palm sized computer with a crystal clear, colour screen that was my phone and a camera and a word processor that could run for hours between charges and gave me access to all the knowledge of the internet.
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Some run for days now.
I want one of the home solar and battery systems.
Seems US tax payers developed some good tech for this and than gave it to china.
The U.S. made a breakthrough battery discovery — then gave the technology to China
Taxpayers spent $15 million on research to build a breakthrough battery. Then the U.S. government gave it to China.
www.npr.org
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Good luck trying to convince any government that it's a moped.
It's a full on motorcycle in Europe and most other civilized countries.
It is pretty hard to get support for EV development in the US. The US manufacturers have actually gone backwards for years and now produce many lines of overweight, over powered vehicles. The classic is pick ups. 400hp and 90% spend years sitting in offic parking lots and never are even used as a truck. Those that might pull something or put it in the back never come near needing the capabilities of a 1970's Ford F150 with a 300/6. And that kind of horsepower and torque they can likely get out of a couple litres now.Some run for days now.
I want one of the home solar and battery systems.
Seems US tax payers developed some good tech for this and than gave it to china.
The U.S. made a breakthrough battery discovery — then gave the technology to China
Taxpayers spent $15 million on research to build a breakthrough battery. Then the U.S. government gave it to China.
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I am not going to do anything. The thing with minor mods fits as class A moped. I already gave up! I will probably just set up that RD for the local riding. I have no problem with that either. Who doesn't love toe smell and sound of a vintage 2-stroke!
Might wait a long time before there is any E-Bike I would consider if ever in my lifetime.
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Most of my suburban neighbors have super trucks and none of them need a truck for work. One guy pulls 2 jet-skis a few times a year a job my Honda Civic could do.
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