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Just in case anyone needs a good belly laugh:

1980 Suzuki GS250 cafe racer - the Bike Shed

The hipster T shirt documentary page is truly a wannabee fest of great renown.

There is not enough mirth in the world. Live a little, laugh a little.

If anyone could build a bike more nerdy than that GS250, I'd be surprised.

Danger, is my business.
 

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^how is that?
RCC stays out of the mud and name calling, offers real tech to people when he can and makes a living building actual functional motorcycles.
wish he had more time to post the killers hit he does
 

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roccitycafe: " i ignore 90% of new builds that come on here because frankly I doubt any of them are actually looking for any advice. "

you, sir, are causing just as much damage to this forum as the dickwads trying to ruin it.
RCC is actually right, guys turn up for advice, get good advice and then go and want to built junk, and then get internet " build " exposure for the attention that they don't get in real life. They want affirmation in what they think they'll become building a bike, and have company along the way.

Building a custom bike is not a journey of self-expression. It's a journey of getting reflections back from the bike you have played around with, it will tell you who you are. From a real road racer with a good bike, to a dreamer with a box of bits.

Also there is nothing new under the Sun about copying the looks of race bikes, that's been done for a century.

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I think its time buccicyle was banned as Im sure it wont be long before someone takes the bait from his childish rants and lowers themselves to an appropriate response which can only continue to be detrimental to this site.

Although Witworth may clash with a few members on here, he actually produces sound advice and does have a broad technical understanding. Witworths brand of Banter is like Marmite, but this recent member is totally annoying.
 

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you, sir, are causing just as much damage to this forum as the dickwads trying to ruin it.

ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!! When he chimes in it is always great advice spoken from hard won experience.
 

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well, perhaps i failed to get my point through -
a man of his statue, saying that he is ignoring 90% of the project threads, is a true loss to this community/forum.
i, for once, disagree with your rant about people coming here to get affirmation instead of advice.
of course i can only talk for my self but i do listen to all of you and learned to separate the wheat from the chaff.
RCC, although probably short on time, should try and chime in more, not ignoring 90% of the threads, so he can help bring all of us to a higher level of professionalism and performance while steer us away from problems and mistakes that he already dealt with.
so, if i offended RCC, that was not my intention.

and yes, it is time to clean house.
 

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Please let me know when someone removes Cory Bucci and his childish rants or when he starts to act like a grown up. I can't believe he's this bad in real life, so why piss in other people's pot on here?
 

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roccitycafe: " i ignore 90% of new builds that come on here because frankly I doubt any of them are actually looking for any advice. "



RCC is actually right, guys turn up for advice, get good advice and then go and want to built junk, and then get internet " build " exposure for the attention that they don't get in real life. They want affirmation in what they think they'll become building a bike, and have company along the way.

Building a custom bike is not a journey of self-expression. It's a journey of getting reflections back from the bike you have played around with, it will tell you who you are. From a real road racer with a good bike, to a dreamer with a box of bits.

Also there is nothing new under the Sun about copying the looks of race bikes, that's been done for a century.

Danger, is my business.
Actually not really. You guys tend to be overly harsh with your tips. Tell people to sell the bike and do some other hobby. Instead of shunning them away with a negative attitude why not try just giving the honest advice without the dick persona? It honestly isnt hard to say "You're going to be doing it wrong. Here is some advice to do it the right way: ..." So. Yeah. He really isnt right.

Not saying the other dont give good advice (because honestly not many people actually do/should listen to witworth's advice.) The advice you guys give is great. But you come off with a very harsh attitude if someone doesnt do it the way you would/should/"the right way." Who knows? The right way to them might be a half assed dual sport with a dune flag on the fender?

I am just saying the "straight to the point, tell it like it is" attitude is getting old. Geeto was harsh to me at first before I finally talked it out with him but it put me in an equally bad mood.

Now the BST section is different. Bucci is giving me testicular cancer. Its starting to get very toxic here.
 

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If someone is building a bike or a part for a bike that is downright dangerous (or so stupid it won't work) "straight to the point, tell it like it is" is the only way. If you want to find out straight to the point, go racing and see what a tech inspector will say if you show up with crap. We all have come up with stupid ideas over the years. Some wehave been talked out of trying. Other ideas we just had to find out for ourselves. With the internet and forums like this you can ask before you wind up on a "Dozy Bikers Fail" video.
 

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Asking for advice as a total nOOb when building any bike, is not a counselling service for idiots with no idea, no cash and no skills.

In life, as in a real M/C shop, or a M/C forum, often the best advice to guys who don't know shit from a spanner is : " You don't know shit from a spanner, dude ! ".

" You guys tend to be overly harsh with your tips. " That's not the case at all. Often it takes a dozen replies to guys, before any good advice penetrates their thick skulls far enough to give any positive results.

It's a café racer forum, not a chopper with clip-ons appreciation society. It's a safe bike forum, not the clown shoe shuffle. It's an improve the performance of an old Jap bike site, not "make it look fast, and function worse" " club ". It's not " The Boy with the dragging tattoo ", redux.

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I never thought I'd consider ChatBot to be a valued member of the CR.net community, but here I am, considering exactly that.

And to think this all started due to ButtHurtCycle not liking what was posted about his shit bike.
 

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Asking for advice as a total nOOb when building any bike, is not a counselling service for idiots with no idea, no cash and no skills.

In life, as in a real M/C shop, or a M/C forum, often the best advice to guys who don't know shit from a spanner is : " You don't know shit from a spanner, dude ! ".

" You guys tend to be overly harsh with your tips. " That's not the case at all. Often it takes a dozen replies to guys, before any good advice penetrates their thick skulls far enough to give any positive results.

It's a café racer forum, not a chopper with clip-ons appreciation society. It's a safe bike forum, not the clown shoe shuffle. It's an improve the performance of an old Jap bike site, not "make it look fast, and function worse" " club ". It's not " The Boy with the dragging tattoo ", redux.

Danger, is my business.
Again, That is where you are wrong.

People arent always as stupid as you point them out to be. No one knows all the answers to the universe. Just because they bought a bike and want to build it up as a hobby with the cafe racer style does not mean they are idiots. If they want the cafe racer style, tell them what they should buy to make it the cafe racer style. You dont have to, again, play some "im a badass, you're not." attitude. If you want it to be a safe bike forum then the last thing you want to do is make yourself look like an asshole, have the person go someplace else, then get the actual WRONG advice from someone who couldnt tell the difference from a turd and a diamond.

"In real life." News flash bud. This is real life. Internet isnt just some virtual reality. The person on the other side of the screen is reading what you're saying. Taking your advice or not and deciding whether to continue being here or leaving.

I have seen nearly every new builder either put off or shunned away by everyone who thinks they are superior on this site. Quit the tough guy act and just be the helpful guy that gives the right advice. The website wont grow with the "Hey dumbass, you dont know how to build a bike so sell the piece of shit!" attitude that over half the active posters seem to post. Let people learn from their mistakes. If they wanna ride a piece of shit, unsafe motorcycle then let them smack their skull on the ground a few times before they learn their lesson and in the long run it doesnt hurt you. Its not like the dude is building the bike for you guys to ride. If he wants it a certain way that is deemed unsafe for most bikers in this community then let him learn his lesson.

It does not often take a dozen replies for someone to understand that the way they are going at it is an unsafe way. A simple "Hey, You wanna learn how to wrench on a bike? Well then I suggest you start by doing this ......" is way more effective in the long run rather than "Dipshit, sell the bike, buy something else."
 

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If someone is building a bike or a part for a bike that is downright dangerous (or so stupid it won't work) "straight to the point, tell it like it is" is the only way. If you want to find out straight to the point, go racing and see what a tech inspector will say if you show up with crap. We all have come up with stupid ideas over the years. Some wehave been talked out of trying. Other ideas we just had to find out for ourselves. With the internet and forums like this you can ask before you wind up on a "Dozy Bikers Fail" video.
Of course. I work at a motorcycle shop and I race every month or so. I understand what a tech does and does not say to someone. Techs are meant to be rude. Do you honestly think its better to act like an asshole to someone who asks for advice?

You guys arent the local track techs. The guy didnt roll up with the unsafe POS and try to race it. So instead of busting his balls in a very rude way, give some proper advice in a civil manner.
 

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Really? This old BS again?

first, you are wrong. The web isn't real and nothing gets done here.
second if people don't like the tone there is nothing keeping them any place.
 
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Cloak, we have tried things many different ways over the years. 90% people will not stay no matter how nice we coax them. Geets (I used to do it more too), Jag etc. sometimes get colorful and say things in a rude way - really this only accelerates the inevitable - either they stick around or leave. Being nice leads to the end game slower - if the guy is dense and fixed with silly ideas he is very unlikely to listen to advise no matter how nicely put. And yeah we could have more members if every bike and idea was praised. However I like this place (and I believe many others too) because bs. doesn't fly far here.

I have made an attempt of being more appropriate but I also have stopped reacting to silly builds as much.

Me getting tired with repetitive stupid shit coincided with me getting very busy in real life so I care less. But it is a true bummer to see this place go to shits. Lets hope it doesn't happen.
 

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Cloak, we have tried things many different ways over the years. 90% people will not stay no matter how nice we coax them. Geets (I used to do it more too), Jag etc. sometimes get colorful and say things in a rude way - really this only accelerates the inevitable - either they stick around or leave. Being nice leads to the end game slower - if the guy is dense and fixed with silly ideas he is very unlikely to listen to advise no matter how nicely put. And yeah we could have more members if every bike and idea was praised. However I like this place (and I believe many others too) because bs. doesn't fly far here.

I have made an attempt of being more appropriate but I also have stopped reacting to silly builds as much.

Me getting tired with repetitive stupid shit coincided with me getting very busy in real life so I care less. But it is a true bummer to see this place go to shits. Lets hope it doesn't happen.
I can understand this. Thanks for clearing it up. Its just the constant asshole attitude (which is literally all I have seen since I joined this site) was getting old.

I got brought here by Sabrecafe. The guy who made the youtube vid's! He hyped up the website as being a very inviting place for some good advice which is unfortunately a very misleading direction. Some people here are inviting. Others not so much. Geeto doesnt really bug me. Not sure why jag is all upset over me bringing this up.

This place feels more like a place to vent your anger on other people for no reasoning. Its not a very inviting place for anyone, really.
 
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