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Here are the questions:

1. What defines a cafe racer?

Fake racebike aka poser

2. What makes a cafe racer so unique compared to other bikes?

trendy

3. What is the first step to building a cafe racer?
spraypaint and checkers

4. What is the most important step?

spraypaint

5. What model bike(s) have you transformed?

what?

6. Do you have a favorite build?

what?

7. What was the most difficult part about that build?

what?

8. How much did it cost?

10,000 hours

9. How long did it take to complete the build?

see last answer

10. How and when did you get involved in the cafe racer scene?

avoid it at all costs
 

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Very good monkey. I will be sure to use this in my research paper. This will represent the cafe racer community very well I think...
 

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Here, in the interest of your education I'll play:

1. What defines a cafe racer? -> Consult Wikipedia first, encapsulate but do not plagiarize that content.

2. What makes a cafe racer so unique compared to other bikes? -> Hopefully a design criteria that emulates racing motorcycle characteristics, but rather intended for practical everyday street riding.

3. What is the first step to building a cafe racer? -> Start with owning a stock street bike, get bored with riding it and then start modifying it sometime thereafter.

4. What is the most important step? -> Owning and riding a stock street bike long enough to actually get bored with it.

5. What model bike(s) have you transformed? -> only one I ever did into a proper cafe racer was a CB350F (don't know if I have photos of it, but if I do they would be on kodachrome slides)

6. Do you have a favorite build? -> Do you mean like what bike would I like to convert to a cafe racer? Wish I owned a Norton Manx that I could get bored with riding and eventually transform into a Cafe racer Manx, but that would make me closer to 100 years old.

7. What was the most difficult part about that build? -> Obtaining a Norton Manx … they are pretty much priceless :| on the one I did build: mounting a headlight into a Yamaha TZ fairing

8. How much did it cost? -> a Manx, more then I could possibly imagine, unless you mean the bike I did build. That one cost me a grand to buy and I sunk about another grand into it.

9. How long did it take to complete the build? -> about 2 years from starting to modify it until I sold it for a loss to my neighbour who promptly flipped it ( flipped as in re-sold, he couldn't ride motorcycles)

10. How and when did you get involved in the cafe racer scene? -> There is no Cafe Racer scene, that happened back about the time the Beatles started singing as a group and ended in the 1970's. I was just a kid with an 80cc dirt bike :|



Thanks again guys. Just put the question number in front of your answer. <- ah crap, I already screwed up the questionnaire.
 

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I have one last question...


Will hillsy get mad if I call him mom.
It seems like all he wants to do is protect me.
 

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1. What defines a cafe racer? For me it's an "older" bike modified for better performance on the street, with styling along the lines of what a racebike of the day would have looked like. But I also think trying to define a cafe racer is an argument waiting to happen.

2. What makes a cafe racer so unique compared to other bikes? The things that define it as a cafe racer...

3. What is the first step to building a cafe racer? Hours and hours of figuring out what you want and why. That does not mean looking at pictures of CB350s and deciding on what color to paint it.

4. What is the most important step? Hours and hours of figuring out what you want and why.

5. What model bike(s) have you transformed? I took parts from a couple Rd350s and an R5 and built a racebike, so that wasn't really a cafe racer. I modified a Honda Hawk (NT650) but never really considered it to be a cafe racer since it still looked pretty much stock save the clip ons and details one who didn't know Hawks would notice. I rebuilt a '74 Ducati 750 GT, built the engine to Sport specs, modded the forks, changed the shocks, and a few other things, but that was more of a GT than a cafe racer. I put together a 160 that, to me, has the looks of a cafe racer but the performance wasn't improved so that wasn't really a cafe racer (aside from the fact it's ungodly slow). I've been putting together a 350 Ducati for the past ten years that would probably be considered a cafe racer but I feel weird calling anything a cafe racer so probably won't talk about it as one. So basically I haven't transformed anything into a cafe racer yet.

6. Do you have a favorite build? My 750GT but again I don't consider it a cafe racer even with all the mods.

7. What was the most difficult part about that build? Rebuilding the engine, in particular timing the (non-stock) cams and ignition.

8. How much did it cost? Keeping track of costs is never a good idea. Figure around $10k, give or take.

9. How long did it take to complete the build? A little over three years

10. How and when did you get involved in the cafe racer scene? I'm not involved in the scene. I became involved with bikes in high school, late '70s. How? I hung around with racers, I read a lot. I didn't buy a bike myself until years later, after college when I got a real job

Will hillsy get mad if I call him mom. I'm guessing you haven't been here long enough for him to give a shit about what you call him. Which isn't to say you wan't get grief, but mad? Nah.
 

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I have one last question...


Will hillsy get mad if I call him mom.
It seems like all he wants to do is protect me.
Well, I certainly don't want to see you go out and get hurt.

I get it that your 17 and bulletproof and all but if you haven't ridden on the road then the best thing you can do is get yourself a bike that is manageable and compliant to learn on. Basically, something with neutral ergonomics and decent (read: modern) handling / braking. Ninja 250/300, VTR250 if you're small(ish), something like a DRZ250/400 if you're a bigger guy. Learning to ride on a heavy clip-on'd 70's porky superbike is probably the last thing you want to be doing.

You asked for advice - that's mine. It's just co-incidental that I probably think the same as your mom.
 

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I used to be pro carbs......until I started tuning FI bikes. A power commander and a lap top. and the world is your oyster. SOOOOO much more adjustable than carbs, Soooo much easier. No gas smell on your hands. Adjustments can be made in seconds on the road (with a dyno it's even easier). You don't have to go out do a plug chop, then take the bike back to the garage to disassemble it. You just stop, plug the lap top into the module make your adjustment then try again...and I don't get met by my wife at the door instructing me to leave my gasoline smelling clothes in the garage!

Amen

FI is finding it's way to off road machines.....thank God. Super cold, 5000 ft elevation , wet/muddy, you rolled your ltz fi...........whatever. Wiz Khalifa ....."no keys....push to start"
 

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I want to listen to your advice hillsy, but I hate waiting. Besides, I live in a motorcycle friendly area with plenty of back roads to learn on. I appreciate the advice, and you are welcome to keep trying to convince me, but at the moment, I think that I want to continue with a cafe build. Maybe with a smaller engine size though.
 

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Also, while everyone is argueing about carbs vs fuel injection, I guess I'll throw in my opinion as well. I personally prefer carbs because that's what I'm used to and theyre easier to tune.
 

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Also, while everyone is argueing about carbs vs fuel injection, I guess I'll throw in my opinion as well. I personally prefer carbs because that's what I'm used to and theyre easier to tune.
When you put those pod filters on your bike come back and tell us how easy they were to tune and run better than before.
 

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I want to listen to your advice hillsy, but I hate waiting. Besides, I live in a motorcycle friendly area with plenty of back roads to learn on. I appreciate the advice, and you are welcome to keep trying to convince me, but at the moment, I think that I want to continue with a cafe build. Maybe with a smaller engine size though.
You won't learn to ride a bike on back roads. You might learn how to operate one but that's a different kettle of fish. I started riding at 18, had an older than me CB125 Super dream. You will crash and someone will knock you off. I had been in two bike crashes before I was 15, as a pillion as you can't account for dumb and a large % of car drivers are dumb so your chances are shit but if you start on something half decent, slow-ish and easier to ride then you can take more time avoiding the bellends in cars.

No one's telling you otherwise for any other reason than its not nice hearing, seeing or knowing about people being scrapped off the tarmac.

Be safe and always keep one thing in mind "they're all trying to kill you"
 

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I want to listen to your advice hillsy, but I hate waiting. Besides, I live in a motorcycle friendly area with plenty of back roads to learn on. I appreciate the advice, and you are welcome to keep trying to convince me, but at the moment, I think that I want to continue with a cafe build. Maybe with a smaller engine size though.
You are a fucktard, now aren'tcha?
 

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WTF did you come here for if you're not going to listen to the experienced advice being handed out. You sound like you're on the path many noobs take when getting into "the scene", ask a bunch of question on how to proceed and then not heed any of it and proceed with your own uneducated plan. This usually results in us finding your incomplete project being offered on Craigs List.
 

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Would you have listened to advice when you were 17. What would you do in my shoes. I'm a hands on learner and I need to learn from experience. Call me whatever you want, idgaf, but now I have to have a build just to prove you guys wrong. Again, what would you do if you were 17.
 
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