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did you have to go to racing school to race with either uscra or lrrs etc??? im assuming you didnt have to go to school to be a passenger right?? or did you?? and you had to join the uscra to be a passenger, so did you have a comp license when you first joined?? in other words, were you able to get around going to racing school since you had been a passenger for so long??? or dont you want to answer that here?


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Joe,
The whole "license" thing is kind of bogus with the USCRA, there really isn't such a thing for vintage racing. Just your membership card. Not since day one have I ever had anyone ask to see my penquin card either at the USCRA or AHRMA or VRRA. All anyone has ever required was a USCRA membership card.

It would be very easy to go racing with the USCRA having never attended a school or any other race.
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johnnyB is right, and it's a big problem. i didn't have to take a school for being a passenger, and yes i probably could have raced solo without a license. but, my first solo experience was in LRRS, and they make you take penguin school. so i got onto the track via sidecar without a license, but never rode solo without one. in all honestly i probably would have survived without penguin school, but i definitely learned things that were helpful. plus, they introduce you to the whole process of racing, from start procedure to cool down lap and pit-in.
i think making school mandatory is a great idea. DeCamp's Hawk school is a good program, but making it mandatory would require more dates and a more extensive program i think. that would all cost money, and it's not cheap as it stands now.
i'm short on answers just like everyone else.

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I'm just short. I stand 3feet and 7inches tall.

I know a few people who have managed to get licences with out going to Penguin school and it shows. There dangerous and they suck.

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you got it backwards, im dangerous, but dont suck.


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you know, ive heard georges school is just like a track day. but that was back when it started. i know you do some instruction there. and other uscraers. i was just wondering if you got a "membership" card when you had to join the uscra. and if you did, was it what the regular racer guys get. ( i thought as a passenger, you had to be a uscra member) ive never had to show any school stuff either. just gave the wera folks my uscra card, and that was it.

blah blah blah.....


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hey zachel, I just wanted to say zachel.

joe suckerously dangers, thats how bad he is.
 

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youve seen me play pool???

i dont like you anymore jd. i thought you were my friend.


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i took the hawk racing school, and look at me now. it wasn't all bad, a little short (like over in one hour, including track time), but considering that i think it cost me $60.00 bucks to get a license and that i got to race that weekend, well, i really don't know my point exactly.

i think one thing that george covered which is tremendously valuable to a new/green racer, which is race proceedure, flags, and track etiquette. also i cut my teeth on a 12hp derbi, so how much trouble could i get into.

i've heard great things about penquin school from chris marshall. he took it out at mid-ohio, on the practice day before ama vintage days/ahrma meet.

caio,

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hawk school for 60, or penguin for 300......which would you do?? i did the penguin, lots of modern bikes with electric starters. it was me, a guy on an mt125, a norton 750 street bike, for vintage stuff. the mt broke down. the norton had a starter. gee, look at the fool trying to bump start his bike in t-3. when we did follow the leader, even wide open, i was passed by the groups behind us when i was in last place, and when i was 1st, i was riding my ass off to go as fast as i could. it was definitely the most fun ive had on my race bike so far.

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>>>>>>>i think one thing that george covered which is tremendously valuable to a new/green racer, which is race proceedure, flags, and track etiquette. also i cut my teeth on a 12hp derbi, so how much trouble could i get into<<<<<<<

Tex,
Is that the school I taught???


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john,

i don't know, what were you wearing?

actually the only thing i do know is there was some fellow on a 350 aermacchi in my group w/instructor on the track, that and i beat that guy in our mock race. his bike had to have been broken!

caio,

tex
 
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