Honda RC frame?
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Ah, I was non-specific on purpose. I guess an early one (60's?), before the six. The frames were all based on(copied from) the featherbed anyway. Just wanted to see if one existed at a museum or somesh*t. I've been tinkering as of late as per our thread on frames for last spring.
So, anyone know where one (any early model at all) is on display?
...and Joe, Old Skull is playing next week.
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Edited by - ROSKO on Sep 04 2005 9:18:46 PM
So, anyone know where one (any early model at all) is on display?
...and Joe, Old Skull is playing next week.
BORN TO LURK, FORCED TO WORK.
Edited by - ROSKO on Sep 04 2005 9:18:46 PM
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well barber museam has a works 250/6, team obsolete has one too!
chip pitcher imported and then stuffed a european market 250/4 water cooled street bike engine in a replica "works" frame he had built to spec by m3 racing (mark mcgrew). also george decamp has the same bike, but i don't know if he had a period/replica works frame made.
here is a beginning for your visionquest young jedi.
hollah,
tex
chip pitcher imported and then stuffed a european market 250/4 water cooled street bike engine in a replica "works" frame he had built to spec by m3 racing (mark mcgrew). also george decamp has the same bike, but i don't know if he had a period/replica works frame made.
here is a beginning for your visionquest young jedi.
hollah,
tex
I've got quite few pics of 60's RC frames. Most of them used the engine as a stressed unit and had no front down tubes. So I'm not sure how close they would be to a featherbed frame. About the closest street frame you'll see to an RC frame is the CB160/250/305 (CB93/72/77).
From the stuff I've read the Honda chassis in that era handled pretty poorly compared to the British stuff.
JohnnyB
From the stuff I've read the Honda chassis in that era handled pretty poorly compared to the British stuff.
JohnnyB
ya may get something from this:
http://www.vf750fd.com/Joep_Kortekaas/honda_race_history.html
this one doesnt have good picts but....
http://www.honda.co.jp/SoundofHonda/
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Edited by - georGe on Sep 07 2005 7:16:21 PM
http://www.vf750fd.com/Joep_Kortekaas/honda_race_history.html
this one doesnt have good picts but....
http://www.honda.co.jp/SoundofHonda/
georGe <img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle>
Edited by - georGe on Sep 07 2005 7:16:21 PM
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Thanks guys, just wanted to get some ideas. And yes the Joep thing was what got me going. Actually waiting for an e-mail from him...
Branson- forward me those pics if you would and, who said that about the handling? They could'nt have been too bad with the TOTAL DOMINATION and all.
(i could'nt handle it)
Edited by - ROSKO on Sep 16 2005 02:36:56 AM
Branson- forward me those pics if you would and, who said that about the handling? They could'nt have been too bad with the TOTAL DOMINATION and all.
(i could'nt handle it)
Edited by - ROSKO on Sep 16 2005 02:36:56 AM
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I raced at the 1967 Canadian GP when Hailwood was there. The Honda's were scary to watch let alone ride. That's why I think Hailwood was the greatest rider ever. What modern racer runs 3 classes on the same day with evil handling bikes on tires that weren't as good as cheap road tires are today. But they made incredible sounds. I felt pretty good that he only lapped me once and I was running 5th.
FrankC
Most of the stuff I've read written by GP riders of the day was of the opinion that the Honda chassis was the worse part of their bikes. Honda had stellar engines and tremendous riders that lead to much of their success in those days.
You could say that Honda had Total Domination DESPITE their frames.
JohnnyB
You could say that Honda had Total Domination DESPITE their frames.
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I didn't see his name listed and they didn't run a 350 class that time. I have a picture of Hailwood on the starting grid with me behind him. BTW I checked and Hailwood lapped me Duhamel and Ron Grant 3 times! Everyone else he lapped 4 or more times. He also lowered the lap record by 11 seconds.
I can't seem to get a picture onto my web site with good resolution so I'm emailing it to you.
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Man, I really stuck my foot in my mouth with that one! Just meant to get the ball rolling as to which designs were PROVEN... I like the look of the TAB frame but, it's all in theory.
Frank, which designs did you find to be impressive or revolutionary for the time? and, where has your site gone? We miss it!
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Frank, which designs did you find to be impressive or revolutionary for the time? and, where has your site gone? We miss it!
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The last tube frame I made was 1.125 dia and was made with the motor as far forward as the wheel allowed and as low as possible. Kevin & I were considering a "mono-cock"
frame but never got around to it. I think that would have been a great way to go for a light stiff frame. I made the last H2 swingarms from sheet metal and they were super stiff. Kevin started running TZ Yamaha's after the H2's which were too much trouble to make a frame for with all those pipes and water cooling stuff. Probably couldn't have made much of an improvement anyway.You have to use http://users.adelphia.net/~camillieri/ to get to my site now. I can't get my domain names to point there yet.
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