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The flow of Jag's Bimota chopper post got me thinking about how a group of motorcycle evangalists would go about making a motorcycle the (pick a label) youngins' would buy. This is a sincere exercise and I'd be interested in what you'd do and a picture of something along the lines of your thinking.

We have had this 2003 800 sitting here. 28,000km , mechanically excellent, including new Dunlop q4's but, has a nasty dent in the tank. There is not much money tied up in it, which makes me wonder what sort of safe, ridable, brick wall poser could be made from it?

The basic "cafe, brat, bobber, whatever" fabrication work would be outside the budget. And the bike needs nothing mechanically. Allow $1000 if you want to make changes to the shape of the existing tank ($2500 for a full tank build)

With a $3500US ($5,000 Cdn, 2900 Bps) budget. What would you do to it? What does it look like?


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to be honest, a 1/2 fairing that compliments the existing bodywork would get you like 75% of the way.
If you want to go that extra 25%, then have the tank, tail, and rear inner fender done in polished aluminum
 

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to be honest, a 1/2 fairing that compliments the existing bodywork would get you like 75% of the way.
If you want to go that extra 25%, then have the tank, tail, and rear inner fender done in polished aluminum
Which 1/2 fairing? Would you stick with the original shape with the alloy?
 

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Which 1/2 fairing? Would you stick with the original shape with the alloy?
So oddly enough....



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That fairing would probably fit the existing look of the bike perfectly.
It wouldn't change the shape of the tank or tail if they were in aluminum. It looks like aluminum tanks for the monster are pretty readily available, around $2000 US though.
If you went with the aluminum tank, you could pain the fairing and the seat.

To be honest though, that fairing would be enough to really jazz it up
 

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Track builds are lame.
WAY to many rules and extras needed to ride on track. And honestly there are not many places to push things on the road. Even so, the road is owned by the man.

People want to be free. Get out and explore.
See new things off the beat and path.

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That monster is killer. Can get you anywhere any time.
Perfect.
 

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First thing that needs to go on ANY Monster is the tank. They changed it a little by the time that one came along, but I could never throw a leg over a bike with a tank that looks so much (and I believe intentionally so) like a giant..... as our British friends would say.... bell end!
 

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The tank has a dent that would cost as much to remove as a replacement tank, so something has to be done. I am thinking about reshaping this one, remove some of the bell endedness. That is going to lead to having to reshape the seat and tail structure to match.

I was thinking a flat tracker style might be cool. The electronics lump under the tank won't allow for quite that low of a profile but the original tank could be cut down in size and flattened out a bit.

On this one they have raised the tail of the tank which would help in keeping a reasonable fuel capacity while making the tank smaller.

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I am going to take and post some pictures of the bike framing and electronics placement for reference.
 

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Electronics should not be that big of a deal to move. Just just contour the tank over them like the stock tank does.

Few old school guys used to use the 748/996 tanks
 

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the pillion grab handles at the back will need to go for the flat track tail. i've done it to one of my monsters. does make it look slimmer too.

the issues with tanks are a few.

due to all the shit taking up space underneath, without the bulging sides, the capacity will drop quite a bit as the back of the tank slopes down, not squarish like sbk tanks.

the 2v head is taller and any sbk tank 916> has the fuel pump right there, so the rear of the tank has to be raised and you get that (imo) dopey af high arse look with some scaffolding holding the rear of the tank up. if you're into stupid looking streetfighters, not so much of an issue for you.

the wide and open frame to go around all the shit under it means the tank has to "fit" it to some extent.

ss tanks are for a completely different top frame rail style, so just don't really work. 888 tank will go on, apart from interfering with the ignition switch bracket. get rid of that and it'd work.

tank shape is a sticking point for me on my customish one, but i don't have the skills to modify it. guess i could learn in my negative spare time.

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Getting the tank shape and integration right is really the trick of the project.
I like the basic concept used on this bike (hate the headlight) but it's very poorly done. The seat appears to be holding up the one end of the tank. This was built by Benji's. Nice metal work wasted, I can't believe they would leave it like it is.
It's hard to find one done nicely.

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I think that could be solved simply by adding horizontal bars to the frame to connect the main and sub frames and provide frame rails to attach the tank and seat to.
 

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Dirt tracker/ Ice racer makes sense the only license and insurance it would require is a race license and entry fees (y) or cost nothing if you have a place to just ride it
 

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It looks like they have just cut the tail off the stock tank to get that shape, that would make life easier. Cool bike
That’s what Lorena Bobbet thought, too.
 
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this thread does have me seriously thinking about making a poor man's sportclassic...
 
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