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Man all I found was an old ass broom that doesnt work and a 26" bicycle tyre. Im sorta jealous of that find... sorta. (like im going to have a wet dream or two involving some of those cars)

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Any guess as to the combined value of the cars!? Anyone want to split a ticket to portugal?

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there was a find like that in the states about 10-15 years ago. Over 200 cars in all and everything from two seat t-brids to fullsize 413 chrysler convertibles. There was a huge auction and most of the cars were shot so some went really cheap (I remember a friend going there and scoring an early hemi powered (392ci) dodge for $400.

I am kinda skeptical about barn find car collections these days and they are always trumped up. Unlike motorcycles, cars can't be hidden as easily and espically in small towns people tend to know what is in everyone's barns. I used to stalk barn find scores for a vette shop and let me tell you, in a small town almost everybody knows its there, but they really don't care unless you tell them it is worth money, then they make a big deal. Something tells me everyone knew this guy was into cars and they were on the property, what they were and how many, that is a different story but chances are even the buyer knew what was on the property before he bought it (he may not have known how many cars but he knew they were there). To a lay non-automotive person, those pics look like a junkyard, to an enthuasist it is buried treasure.

back in 2001 a friend of mine told me about a small junkyard his grandfather had on the family farm in middle louisiana. I was looking for GTO parts then so the idea of someone's private junkyard was really appealing to me. It turned out that his grandfather had owned the GM dealership (Chevy, pontiac, GMC) and had used the farm as overstock inventory for the used cars and the models he couldn't sell. A lot of the cars were base model four doors, but some barely had break in miles on it (two cars were new, 1962 byscanes fleet ordered with 327s and 3 speeds and returned with 10 miles on the clock each). Everybody knew about it in that town, the family knew about it, but nobody realized what the cars were worth. When I sat them down and explained everything and what was worth saving and what could be sold for scrap they got real tightlipped and sprang into action. told the whole town they scrapped the cars out of state but really they moved the good ones into the barn and scrapped the ones with bad frames and bodies. I still talk my friend form time to time and everyso often the family will sell some parts or a car when they need money - otherwise it just sits.

Barn stories are the automotive urban legends, hear about them often but they seldom actually happen. I worked at making them happen for me for years and even then it was rare and never like people make it out to be.


Edited by - Geeto67 on Feb 19 2007 4:48:23 PM
 

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While it's fun to imagine a diamond in the rough story like that, let's be real for a minute. Extrapilating the approx. size of the building by counting cars and or cinder blocks and knowing the approx. dimensions of each reveals that the building is at least 60 feet wide and 100 feet long. At least! How does a new buyer, or the seller for that matter, not know about a 6000+ sq. ft 30 ft tall building on the property? Sure it's a nice collection, but c'mon! A hidden barn with an old rusty padlock? Give me a break.


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ok, that's it, i'm mad! makes me want to beat up the pope to scare god into making my next purchase as good as that guys'..... how much do you think the pope has retained from his hitler youth camp training? or maybe i should just go to portugal and beat that scumbag into selling me his full barn for a euro or two.....

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I could hide a building that size on my property easily, you'd have to hike through the woods or see it from a plane. 100 yards off the road and it would be invisible here.

You know what that building is? Note very few windows, insulation fastened to the walls, an evaporator unit in one photo...it's a cool storage unit for some kind of produce...see them for apples around here. If it was what was left of a good size farm it could have had dozens of out buildings. 20-30 years or more of trees growing up around the building and it could have gone unnoticed for a long time. And there are some very rural areas in Europe, hard to access.

The cars definately have been sitting a long time, don't see so much as a finger print in the dust except for one of them. 20-30 years ago many of those cars would have been far less valuable and far less likely to draw attention. It's definately a barn find....I doubt the original owner collector would cut open the door and take pictures of his own collection that he let rot for 15 years. And of course it's not a staged photo....so someone did find a huge barn full of cool old cars...now if it was a surprise or not is a whole different story.
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you'd be surprised how much legal proceedings can hold things up too. When I was working for a law firm in new orleans we has a divorce case that had the family's 1967 RS camaro tied up for 10 years (the entire time it was in a storage facility with no access from either party). The problem arose when the car over the years of ownership was transfered back and forth from husband to wife several times. Both wanted the car.

It would not be hard to imagine the old man dies and the however many children he has fighting over the family farm and their share of it and whether the cars are split up on the farm according to whose share they were on or wheter there is a pro-rata share, at this point you can see it getting complicated, or whether by time acquired. Considering there are still cases from WWII relating to property in the european courts it would not be hard to imagine a family fighting over these cars for 15 years while the lock rusted and the dust collected.
 

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I'd also imagine that if the "new owner" story is true...that if the previous owners family didn't know about or understand the value of the cars...that there would be some serious legal attempts to exempt the cars from the sale of the property.

I mean if you buy a piece of property and find a box of gold hidden there by the previous owner...it doesn't necessarily mean you own the gold. Typically you are buying the property and buildings...and contents are stipulated seperately. Good chance the new owner would have to turn all the cars back over to the previous owner's family.
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I'd also imagine that if the "new owner" story is true...that if the previous owners family didn't know about or understand the value of the cars...that there would be some serious legal attempts to exempt the cars from the sale of the property.

I mean if you buy a piece of property and find a box of gold hidden there by the previous owner...it doesn't necessarily mean you own the gold. Typically you are buying the property and buildings...and contents are stipulated seperately. Good chance the new owner would have to turn all the cars back over to the previous owner's family.
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It all depends on you purchanse agreement. The standard in most of the US is that you buy the land with all that is on it and tough nuts to the seller if he didn't check out his own property (subject to each state's titling laws), but every agreement is unique and you would be surprised how somethings get done. I can't speak knowldegably about European laws, but it is entirely possible that the cars (espically since seperate title laws exist for motor vehicles) remain the property of the family to dispose of. It may even be that the purchase agreement is silent as to othet titled property and the cars remain the property of whomever the vehicle is last titled to. It could also be possible that no sale of the property existed, and the cars need to be disposed of before the land is sold.

All we know is there are cars in a cement structure for a very long time. Outside of that who knows who owns it or even how the pictures came to be taken.
 

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i know a woman who bought a house in philadelphia from an elderly man who died. i guess his kids were bastards and didn't visit the old man after they all left home, grew up, got married and had kids, etc...

so the old man dies and his kids put the house on the market the very next day. they undervalue the house for a quick sale and it sells to this friend of mine. she is an interior decorator and quite handy so she decides to take down a wall from the small dining room to the kitchen. she found $35,000 in cash hidden in the wall.

fuckin' old man's kids don't get shit. she has the title to the house, so ALL the cash is hers.

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