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Hey,

I am a university student with no money, but would like to build my own cafe racer. A friend is selling a 1981 Honda Cm400t for $1000, it runs well and is completely stock. I will be the first to admit it is not the prettiest or fastest bike, but I think it could potentially make a good base to build my first cafe racer. I was just wondering if anyone agrees with me, or if anyone out there has any advice that would steer me away from this bike. I would greatly appreciate any feedback about this bike and potential build.

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Fuck, just Fuck......


So you have no money....big shock, no one dose.
And you found a honda hawk....another big shock....
And let me guess, for the last 3 years you have know how into the whole cafe racer thing you have always been?

Remember when someone told you that there are no stupid questions? well they lied.
This is one of those stupid questions.

Here is why
Clearly you have a perverted view of what a cafe racer is. If you actually knew then you wouldnt have to ask what is or isnt a good base for it.
If someone asked if a corvette would make a good baja racer they would get the same reaction. The questions tells the people you are asking how little you know and how far off base you are already.

In an attempt to help here are the more important things to ask and figure out.
-does the dam thing run 100% right now. Can you jump on it and ride where ever you want when ever you want? You want a yes answer here.

after that it doesnt matter.

Dont modifiy anything.
just ride the fucking thing.

A "potential build" should not even be something you are thinking about. at all, for a long time.

Any old bike will give you plenty of chances to mend it. Dont make work for the sake of work.
 

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This bike would be nothing more than something for you to teach yourself how to maintain, not a cafe racer. Which is not a bad thing. I would look for something unmolested and something that works fine. I don't doubt that you would not be satisfied with any 70's 0r 80's bike that is running nicely and all original. I do however know that you will be have nothing but issues if you buy someone else's unfinished project.
 

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Forget motorcycles. Esp if you are broke and live in Canada, I hear your insurance can only be described as rape-y when talking about cost.

instead go be a real college student, take recreational drugs, try to consensually hump anything that remotely shows interest (including inanimate objects), and generally experiment with your real artistic side by painting, making music, writing, sculpting, photography (you know the traditional art mediums). Go to parties, have orgies, listen to metal. forget motorcycles.
 

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Is that 1000$ certified ? and have you priced out insurance ?


WOW! Just realized you are in Ottawa, there are tons of bikes for sale near you and I on kijiji. I have seen a decent cb360t and a if you drove down to Trenton you could pick this beauty up. I would but I don't have the time money or space for another project.

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…he can't afford that, it's 3600$ plus tax & before insurance, plus you will notice it has no license plate on it now.
 

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I pay 40 bucs a month for my cb500 and I am young and do not have a full M license. If you factor in the amount you would spend converting a cm400t into a cafe racer this 750 is well worth the price. Provided everything works and it has good compression.
 

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I pay 40 bucs a month for my cb500 and I am young and do not have a full M license. If you factor in the amount you would spend converting a cm400t into a cafe racer this 750 is well worth the price. Provided everything works and it has good compression.

Then he should take a picture of this bike into the insurance people and ask for a quote on it too.
 

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Fuck, just Fuck......


So you have no money....big shock, no one dose.
And you found a honda hawk....another big shock....
And let me guess, for the last 3 years you have know how into the whole cafe racer thing you have always been?

Remember when someone told you that there are no stupid questions? well they lied.
This is one of those stupid questions.

Here is why
Clearly you have a perverted view of what a cafe racer is. If you actually knew then you wouldnt have to ask what is or isnt a good base for it.
If someone asked if a corvette would make a good baja racer they would get the same reaction. The questions tells the people you are asking how little you know and how far off base you are already.

In an attempt to help here are the more important things to ask and figure out.
-does the dam thing run 100% right now. Can you jump on it and ride where ever you want when ever you want? You want a yes answer here.

after that it doesnt matter.

Dont modifiy anything.
just ride the fucking thing.

A "potential build" should not even be something you are thinking about. at all, for a long time.

Any old bike will give you plenty of chances to mend it. Dont make work for the sake of work.

Thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule and informing me of my misguided perception of what buying/riding a motorcycle is all about. Your message was endearing, so thank you again.
 

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One day you will mean that
 

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Then he should take a picture of this bike into the insurance people and ask for a quote on it too.
I don't know how things work where you are from but records on classic bikes aren't kept as far back as the 70's here. I was able to insure my bike with out even sending in pictures, all they wanted to know is if it passed safety certification. Most 70's and 80' bikes are classified as safe bikes in Ontario by insurance companies. Quebec on the other hand is a different story and they wont let you ride a motorcycle more than (I don't know the exact age but lets say 20 years old) on any major highway.
 

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Harvey, do you own another motorcycle? In the US you usually don't get classic rates unless you have another "daily rider" motorcycle with regular insurance (or a car with full coverage). I am wondering if it works the same in canada.

All I ever heard from my Canadian friends is how expensive motorcycle insurance is.
 

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It's called multi-vehical discount rate but you still have to insure every vehicle individually and they don't let you insure them 1 month at a time, that's just a ploy to make the numbers sound less significant. Plus if your address is urban it will be higher then rural customers. They will also ask how many k you do a year and will likely ask if the bike has been modified. They asked me to bring my bike is so they could look at it and take pictures. … and I didn't even want collision coverage.

:) but I did get a voucher for a free large DairyQueen ice-cream.
 

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In Quebec you require a plate on anything with a motor including a Lawn tractor. If you trailer or truck a motorcycle out in the open (non-enclosed vehicle) it requires a plate and that includes competition only dirt bikes. If you care to test if that theory applies to non P.Q. residents, I sure hope for your sake you speak french too.
 

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In Quebec you require a plate on anything with a motor including a Lawn tractor. If you trailer or truck a motorcycle out in the open (non-enclosed vehicle) it requires a plate and that includes competition only dirt bikes. If you care to test if that theory applies to non P.Q. residents, I sure hope for your sake you speak french too.
Seriously? You have to have a bike registered to just trailer it somewhere? That's lunacy.
 

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Harvey, do you own another motorcycle? In the US you usually don't get classic rates unless you have another "daily rider" motorcycle with regular insurance (or a car with full coverage). I am wondering if it works the same in canada.

All I ever heard from my Canadian friends is how expensive motorcycle insurance is.
I have a 1974 Suzuki GT185 and a 1972 Honda CB500 I do not have them as historic insurance just regular insurance and yes I pay 40 for 12 months so 480 a year and received no grief insuring my bikes, Thanks State farm. I don't know what the historic insurance regulations are here but that multi bike rule does not apply in my case.
 

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I have a 1974 Suzuki GT185 and a 1972 Honda CB500 I do not have them as historic insurance just regular insurance and yes I pay 40 for 12 months so 480 a year and received no grief insuring my bikes, Thanks State farm. I don't know what the historic insurance regulations are here but that multi bike rule does not apply in my case.
:confused: so are you saying your 480$ per annum on a 500cc bike is, or is not representative of a multi-vehicle discount rate. Which btw is also considerably lower then would be applicable to a 750cc bike, because they also base the rates on displacement among other things now.

State Farm is who gave me the free ice cream voucher.
 
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