http://www.twintechcars.com/
just get plates that say cafe racer !
Im so far behind ,that I think Im in first.
just get plates that say cafe racer !
Im so far behind ,that I think Im in first.
just relaaaaax!!! well in maybe one of these
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red car is typical of those owners they cant drive.
The smart needs a chopped top so it looks SMART.
Its why I always loved pro race drivers that drove sports cars and left the mercedes at home for the wife.Because then you had a car and a machine represented properly.
Nothing more annoying here in the states but seeing high end cars tooling in the slow lane at 50 miles an hour.
Im so far behind ,that I think Im in first.
The smart needs a chopped top so it looks SMART.
Its why I always loved pro race drivers that drove sports cars and left the mercedes at home for the wife.Because then you had a car and a machine represented properly.
Nothing more annoying here in the states but seeing high end cars tooling in the slow lane at 50 miles an hour.
Im so far behind ,that I think Im in first.
yeah, i saw one in london once with a douchebad driving it. they do look like a helluva fun and i want one. good luck getting it with the steering wheel on the proper side and getting it titled outside of england. that country has kept its low production vehicles laws really loose for the "artisans" who build these types of things. the problem with having them laws in other countries is that there will be too many of us who build shit and destroy ourselves. but yeah, i definitely want that ariel....
CB650, FauxCatiFT500
CB650, FauxCatiFT500
but thats a car motor ,I like the high tech bike motors in two seater sports cars.I like looking at the drive train conversion solutions.bike engines have so much gran prix in them its just cool.Multi engine are even cooler but timing and sinc drive train up is a problem.....i think its where modern final drives and all wheel drive can be put to good use.
Im so far behind ,that I think Im in first.
Edited by - LiLBull on May 10 2007 12:10:58 PM
Im so far behind ,that I think Im in first.
Edited by - LiLBull on May 10 2007 12:10:58 PM
http://www.legendscars.com/
an entire racing class for tech bike motors in 2 seat sports cars, and they look like old time dirt track cars. can't beat that.
The entire advantage to a "tech bike" motor is power to weight ratio...it seems like a waste to me any time you are taking a motor and putting it in a heavier chassis than what it has been in, even if the lump it replaces made no where near the hp (example the hayabusa mini or smart car). When you take a car motor and put it in a lighter chassis then you really have something because you are increasing the efficiency of that motor. To put it simply, that hayabusa motor has to work harder to push the mini, where as the honda car motor is actually under less strain with the same performance numbers. Wanna guess which will last longer?
now I know that cars have the advantage in cornering over a bike but I doubt you will get something like that hayabusa mini to turn faster lap times than a standard hayabusa. I have no doubt that it will turn a faster lap time than a standard mini, but so will a turboed vtech honda motor in the same mini.
the other reason I don't like tech bike motors in cars is that they only have a 5 year shelf life. Car motors are built more durable because the mfg expects someone to ring 100,000 miles out of it. Bike motors these days are built to maximum performance because the mfg figures you'll wreck the bike long before the motor is at the end of its duty cycle. I mean how long to you really expect nikasil coated aluminum blocks with out liners to last anyway?
an entire racing class for tech bike motors in 2 seat sports cars, and they look like old time dirt track cars. can't beat that.
The entire advantage to a "tech bike" motor is power to weight ratio...it seems like a waste to me any time you are taking a motor and putting it in a heavier chassis than what it has been in, even if the lump it replaces made no where near the hp (example the hayabusa mini or smart car). When you take a car motor and put it in a lighter chassis then you really have something because you are increasing the efficiency of that motor. To put it simply, that hayabusa motor has to work harder to push the mini, where as the honda car motor is actually under less strain with the same performance numbers. Wanna guess which will last longer?
now I know that cars have the advantage in cornering over a bike but I doubt you will get something like that hayabusa mini to turn faster lap times than a standard hayabusa. I have no doubt that it will turn a faster lap time than a standard mini, but so will a turboed vtech honda motor in the same mini.
the other reason I don't like tech bike motors in cars is that they only have a 5 year shelf life. Car motors are built more durable because the mfg expects someone to ring 100,000 miles out of it. Bike motors these days are built to maximum performance because the mfg figures you'll wreck the bike long before the motor is at the end of its duty cycle. I mean how long to you really expect nikasil coated aluminum blocks with out liners to last anyway?
as soon as i read lilbull's post that's exactly what i was thinking about. i placed a bet on the ebay once for legend car and at the last minute got outbid out of my $1800. it was a complete car, 37chevy style if i remember correctly, with no spares or anything but you can't beat that price, until the last 2 bids reached past 4g's at the last minute. i was so pissed.
CB650, FauxCatiFT500
all points taken Geetoo,legends have been around a while now and they are single seaters, dwarf cars.The mini Hayabusa is a tube frame fiberglass car.Not a steel car with a motor trans plant, the mini is front engine front wheel drive the hayabusa car is tube frame midengine rear drive car.they have fast lotus seven knock offs with cycle engines that go very well.A swiss designer in the 80s built a rear engine car with two sixcyclinder bike engines so he had a 12 cylinder car that was cool his name is franco sbarro.A french designer did a similar thing in a more exotic looking car that had a beach utility theme, it had a wet bike built into it .But the car looked like a lamborghini countach.
just cool ideas taking bike motors and using them in light efficient cars.
Longevity isnt an issue as they are aimed at a second or third family car or personal transport on occasion like a true sports car was designed for, originally a "hobby" car and not dailey transport.
most of the machines in uk are tube frame fiber glass cars that use bike engines.
The coupling and drive trans to make it work in a four wheel vehicle, is where uk has taken the lead.
Im so far behind ,that I think Im in first.
Edited by - LiLBull on May 13 2007 07:43:55 AM
just cool ideas taking bike motors and using them in light efficient cars.
Longevity isnt an issue as they are aimed at a second or third family car or personal transport on occasion like a true sports car was designed for, originally a "hobby" car and not dailey transport.
most of the machines in uk are tube frame fiber glass cars that use bike engines.
The coupling and drive trans to make it work in a four wheel vehicle, is where uk has taken the lead.
Im so far behind ,that I think Im in first.
Edited by - LiLBull on May 13 2007 07:43:55 AM
yeah, sparro is famous in europe. here's a good site:
http://clcalvet.club.fr/sbarro/indexgb.html
and here is his design school's site:
http://www.espera-sbarro.com.fr
they've pooped out some amazing things. all their work should be on the site.
CB650, FauxCatiFT500
http://clcalvet.club.fr/sbarro/indexgb.html
and here is his design school's site:
http://www.espera-sbarro.com.fr
they've pooped out some amazing things. all their work should be on the site.
CB650, FauxCatiFT500
I guess that just cuts to the quipe,doesnt it.
Needs a designer now that can add vissual impact so it looses its snowmobilish look.Over all bulkiness needs parring down.be nice with skinny wheels smaller nose,not so bulky body work.if it were more skeletul(spelling?) the idea would be cooler.but I like this type of three wheeler over a two rear wheel three wheeler.
Im so far behind ,that I think Im in first.
Needs a designer now that can add vissual impact so it looses its snowmobilish look.Over all bulkiness needs parring down.be nice with skinny wheels smaller nose,not so bulky body work.if it were more skeletul(spelling?) the idea would be cooler.but I like this type of three wheeler over a two rear wheel three wheeler.
Im so far behind ,that I think Im in first.
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