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I agree with a lot of what he says....but believe almost zero of his stories. I have noticed quite a few regulars disappear and that sucks. THis site has really become the whitworth show and it isn't healthy. Find one thread he hasn't derailed
There aren't any. It amazingly took 25 hours but he found his way to say something negative on the Ichiban thread. ffarl how do you feel about potential sponsors not coming here because of one member, does the financial side move you at all?
If Wit were half of what he says he is, why is he hanging out at a place all day, every day where he is not wanted by anyone? If this were in the real world his attitude would have gotten his ass kicked at least a dozen times. By I'm sure he s going to reply to this how he is also a MMA master and everyone who threatened him is already 6" under.
 

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The traffic increase thing is A perfect example of claims that are just pure bs....every thread contains this. Criticism is awesome...but constant need for validation is just tiring. He IS hurting your long term traffic. I don't agree in the all mighty ban hammer but in this case it would be better for everyone. IMO...and while i dont claim to be an expert i do know a few things about marketing having a degree in it. I will admit I haven't used it Ina few years though :)
 

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I agree with a lot of what he says....but believe almost zero of his stories. I have noticed quite a few regulars disappear and that sucks. THis site has really become the whitworth show and it isn't healthy. Find one thread he hasn't derailed
Half of G_T's stories and comments would be viewed in much the same way as mine, If he hasn't been on this site for so long, and given a bit of a bio on his motor shenanigans. That may bolster what he says, but that doesn't affect my validity, in the slightest.

As far as I see it, so many of diverse threads would have gone nowhere fast without my learned input. So many old hands make one post, walk and walk away because noobs ain't taking in anything they say.

Danger, is my business.
 

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Of course I'm not thrilled to hear that sponsors have passed on us, but forums aren't and easy gig for a lot of vendors. It opens them up to criticism, and they'd need to be able to handle what anyone is dishing out anyway. A bunch of you damn near came after DCC with torches and pitchforks, so nothing surprises me there.

It's the omnipresence of the thing that I would think is the worst. Not one thread goes un-touched. Further, who has time for that?
 

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There aren't any. It amazingly took 25 hours but he found his way to say something negative on the Ichiban thread. ffarl how do you feel about potential sponsors not coming here because of one member, does the financial side move you at all?
If Wit were half of what he says he is, why is he hanging out at a place all day, every day where he is not wanted by anyone? If this were in the real world his attitude would have gotten his ass kicked at least a dozen times. By I'm sure he s going to reply to this how he is also a MMA master and everyone who threatened him is already 6" under.
You are wrong with the ass kicked theory. Don't ask me how I accomplish that feat. It doesn't involve anything sneaky, dishonest or violent BTW.

Reality check, the Niban guy thought it was amusing to post a "fake Witworth" thread and a YouTube clip in insulting "mirth". I'm negative? Really.

If you are a guy entertained by a "funny guy" who sells stickers, go right ahead.

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I'm just not even sure what to say to that. You an SEO guru now too? Brilliant.
I can sell stale shit to a dry creek, or make money sprout from a sidewalk. I've start businesses from virtually nothing, and about zero capital.

"that company" always says they will pull ads if it gets hot. If I had tons of cheap Chinese junk to sell I'd probably feel the same.

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I can sell stale shit to a dry creek, or make money sprout from a sidewalk. I've start businesses from virtually nothing, and about zero capital.

"that company" always says they will pull ads if it gets hot. If I had tons of cheap Chinese junk to sell I'd probably feel the same.

Danger, is my business.

Youre in that Dos Equis commercial aren't you?
 

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But criticism, experience and opinion does.
I have never once complained about Jaguar or Geeto or any of the others that have a reputation for not suffering fools gladly. I can stand harsh feedback because they have provided me with valid criticism, based on real experience, and expressed knowledgeable opinions. It's constantly taking the piss on whatever is said for the sake of getting troll-jollies that I — and I believe everybody else — objects to. Any ill will toward Witworth on this site has been deliberately and thoughtfully earned.
 

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I have never once complained about Jaguar or Geeto or any of the others that have a reputation for not suffering fools gladly. I can stand harsh feedback because they have provided me with valid criticism, based on real experience, and expressed knowledgeable opinions. It's constantly taking the piss on whatever is said for the sake of getting troll-jollies that I — and I believe everybody else — objects to. Any ill will toward Witworth on this site has been deliberately and thoughtfully earned.
Is this the same Tanshanomi that thanked me for my experienced chassis engineering advice regarding your bikes upper shock mount, surely not.

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I'm personally not in favor of banning people but sometimes for the overall good it has to be done. Rules? OK. Everything has to have parameters. If this place folds up and dies it won't affect me. I'm too old and have been at this too long. What does bother me is to see newbies that are ignorant about motorcycles but are enthusiastic asking questions (that have been asked a million times before) being blasted and run off. At one time or other we were all ignorant. I like to think of these places as somewhere to educate and promote. Maybe you should change the name to "Caferacer for those who know everything there is to know about cafe racers.net."
 

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I am not a fan of banning anyone, and pretty vocal about it. If you are going to hold yourself out as a forum of free speech then own up to it and let everything that isn't illegal or wildly distasteful (IE porn) stand than let it stand.
In theory, I would fully agree. But there is a certain point where I won't stand on principal just to be right when the "right" answer clearly isn't working. "I react pragmatically. Where the market works, I'm for that. Where the government is necessary, I'm for that.... I'm in favor of whatever works in the particular case." — John Kenneth Galbraith
 

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I agree with geeto and ffarl. Each is entitled to their opinion and experiences. There are some that have helped me out with their experience and wisdom, while some talk without either. Who knows? Get your bike running to its best , and go riding while the weather is good.
 

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Is this the same Tanshanomi that thanked me for my experienced chassis engineering advice regarding your bikes upper shock mount, surely not.
Just proof that I tried to give you a fair shot despite your arrogant, combative attitude. But that ship has sailed. You've proven yourself to be a complete ass who doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt.
 

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I don't come here for the bike info anymore, I come here for the reality TV style crap, in fact I dont even really expect to see any bike stuff posted anymore. As much as DTT is blasted by members here that site is active and can be cherry picked for info, it's slim pickings here now :( I'm not a fan of banning but there's always an exception.

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