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Question 1: I think I already know, but is a 71 CB 175 Legal to run in the Motogiro? (I know it is not as cool as a Guzzi Stornello or a Gilera or an NSU, but they are alot more likely to be given away!!)

Question 2: Does anyone have an interesting 68 or older and 250 and smaller street legal bike they would be willing to trade? I have a few interesting items I might be willing to part with. Like a race ready FCB CB(CL)350 (you may have seen it at NHIS), or a 71 MGB GT rolling basket case (I got it to potentially make a vintage race car out of, the interior is junk, but the body and chassis is quite rust-free for an MG in this part of the country, and I was told the engine was rebuilt with many tricky parts, cam, pistons etc, and has never been started, I cannot confirm but it does have Webber carbs so maybe...) or a rough and I mean rough 1974 BMW 2002 (car that is), rust, broken glass, but the engine supposedly ran, or how about a nice 90's arctic white Fender American Standard Stratocaster with a maple neck and Fender Hard shell case.
Let me know.
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kevin,
the 71 really isn't eligiible. there was one the first year running and it didn't go over so well as others are within the parameters of the machine rules. keep looking around you'll find something. i do have a line on a nice suzuki 250 mid 60's and it appears to be in nice condition. i think they are looking for around $1,000.00+/- ???

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Kevin,

I have the following Giro eligible bikes for sale (or TRADE for that 350 race bike maybe...). Was your bike #707?

55 Triumph tiger cub project- complete but apart, missing only the gearshift indicator that goes in the headlight. I nearly had this bike done, then the cellar was flooded, the work bench floated, then tipped over. RATS $1500

55 Ariel Colt project-all togther but seized from sitting for 25 years. Missing the muffler, tool box and some wiring. This is a very rare, unusual bike--ever seen one? $1300 or trade

Please note the above 2 bikes and one of the S65's were in a flood. The triumph and honda under water for 3 days, but I think I got them fixed ok. The ariel only had some water in the gearbox.

66 Honda CA160 with CA95 Motor- kind of rough but complete. I pushed it home last time I road it. I was going to run it in the Giro this year, but then I bought a real nice CA160 the monday before the event. $300 or trade

2 mid 60's Honda s65's make one from two.......$250 the pair or BO or trade

Let me know if you are interested in any of the above.

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Kevin,

I have the following Giro eligible bikes for sale (or TRADE for that 350 race bike maybe...). Was your bike #707?

55 Triumph tiger cub project- complete but apart, missing only the gearshift indicator that goes in the headlight. I nearly had this bike done, then the cellar was flooded, the work bench floated, then tipped over. RATS $1500

55 Ariel Colt project-all togther but seized from sitting for 25 years. Missing the muffler, tool box and some wiring. This is a very rare, unusual bike--ever seen one? $1300 or trade

Please note the above 2 bikes and one of the S65's were in a flood. The triumph and honda under water for 3 days, but I think I got them fixed ok. The ariel only had some water in the gearbox.

66 Honda CA160 with CA95 Motor- kind of rough but complete. I pushed it home last time I road it. I was going to run it in the Giro this year, but then I bought a real nice CA160 the monday before the event. $300 or trade

2 mid 60's Honda s65's make one from two.......$250 the pair or BO or trade

Let me know if you are interested in any of the above.

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There was a guy there with a 70's CB175 this year. But I don't think it was an offical entry. Check with George DeCamp if the 175 will be allowed next year. I understand that they are going to allow the CB CA CL 77 honda 305's next year. There was also I 125 single that was not of the proper year, and the guy had to replace the disc brake with a drum to be able to participate. I think the bike is shown on this site with the disc setup.
 

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There was a guy there with a 70's CB175 this year. But I don't think it was an offical entry. Check with George DeCamp if the 175 will be allowed next year. I understand that they are going to allow the CB CA CL 77 honda 305's next year. There was also I 125 single that was not of the proper year, and the guy had to replace the disc brake with a drum to be able to participate. I think the bike is shown on this site with the disc setup.
 

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I am on the east coast!! Got the MG really tucked away, like bomb shelter tucked away. Will take some pics where is and send you some if you really are interested. What do you have to trade?
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I am on the east coast!! Got the MG really tucked away, like bomb shelter tucked away. Will take some pics where is and send you some if you really are interested. What do you have to trade?
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Oh, duh, yeah now as I re-read the post before, I see it's the other guy who is on the West coast. Actually right now, I have no trades, gotta' keep my B'stone 175 for my giro bike, but I will keep my eyes open for you. Keep in mind that there is a 305 class now open in the giro, so that means the Honda CL,CB,CA 77's and Yamaha YSD3 series are all legit bikes, which came a bit late for me as last winter I started parting out a Yami Big Bear in pretty fair condition that would have been an excellent trade.

You probably already know this, but be very careful about buying/trading for two stroke giro bikes that haven't been running for awhile, as all it takes is a little condensation (and this happens with all bikes that aren't kept in a heated enviroment) and the crank is toast. Four strokes fair much better as usually their cranks sit in a wet sump, or over time will sump from the oil tank into the crankcase, a good thing. I bought my B'stone running, and it's been fine, and keeping it in a barn over the winter is fine also; it's when they don't get run for 3 or 4 years. I once bought a complete H1 engine and when I pulled it down, there was an inch of pure clean water in the bottom end. The surprising thing was that it hadn't gotten up into the crank yet, and it was fine.

Now is this MG that cool little coupe with the engine in sideways? If so, what kind of money would you be looking for, and I wouldn't make you drag it out unless I was really ready to purchase it.

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Oh, and BTW, there have been some illegal entries in the giro in the past years, but these were just to fill out the field and make the giro pay for itself; it ain't cheap to run this event. As the entree level goes up, the illegal bikes will begin to be weeded out. Last year we had around 60 entries, and these 60 will have first chips on a spot for next year. Bob was mulling over where to cap the number of contestants, and he was talking around 70, but I suggested that we could always send two riders out on the half minute, like a lot of dirt enduros do, and we could probably handle a 100 riders. But then the facility comes into it, and what they can handle; you know, the banquet and all that. I don't think Fawlty Towers can handle that many, and I guess we'll be back there for one more year. At any rate, with the first 60 spots taken already, and without doubt 90% of them will ride again next year, it would behoove newby's to get in line early. In fact, I think I'll email Bob and suggest that we at least provide a site where new people can sign up and get in line for spots, plus this would give us an idea about how many riders we'll have for next year, and if need be, perhaps looking for a larger facility.

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Dgy,

That MBG GT had a 4 clyinder motor driving the rear wheels, mounted in the usual manner. The only older MG that had the engine sideways was the MG 1100 which was a rebadged Austin Princess, which was kind of a rebadged Wolsey Hornet, Which was an evolution of the original Morris/Austin Mini.

Did you write an article for Road Bike Magazine this year before the Giro? It was pretty good! Do you know if the event will be covered in an upcoming issue?

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Yeah, and thank you. Glad you liked it. I don't think Roadbike will cover the event as Buzz Canter, the owner of the mag' (along with American Iron) was the only one who couldn't follow directions and arrows and got lost. When he finally came in, he was flaming and loaded up his bike and went home <boo-hoo>. Some motorcylclist. So all the work that Jess did went right down the tubes. However, we had a guy doing an article from the AMA and I expect to see something in the AMA magazine sometime this winter.

I thought you had a coupe, which would have been tempting to me. Actually, it's kind of a relief because I've got two major projects happening right now, and had I taken on another, my wife would have smothered me in my sleep, collected the insurance $, and told my boys that their father ran away with a disgraced senator. She can be scary ;)-

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DGY,

Did Buzz leave on Sat or Sunday? Wasn't it Sunday that there was the mixup where the sheet said go left, but the arrows pointed right?
I was lucky that George was there pointing the correct way.

The MGB GT is a coupe, just not what you are thinking of.

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No, he left in a huff on Saturday. Where he went wrong was maybe 20 miles out where you came to the Y in the road and there was an orange arrow pointing right (I think we were following green), but the directions said go left and then there was a green arrow up that road 100 feet or so. Buzz just followed the orange arrow, and continued to follow them totally ignoring his route sheet, and then came back all pissed off.

Small wonder the talented and lovely Jessica Prokup left his mag' for greener pastures. I won't renew to Roadbike as I just was getting it for the giro stuff. That mag' really is for the metric cruiser crowd and I was lucky if I could find one thing in there that interested me. I'm way spoiled by Cycle World which is generally always good, and sometimes gets real good.

George got to the route sheet error too late to save myself and not a few others from a 20 mile sight seeing tour. I came to that intersection, the arrow said right, the sheet said left, I said "fkg kids" and followed the sheet, then I got 10 miles out of my way, and said "fkg sheet" and we all headed back, which by then George was there waving us on. In George's defence, though, I don't think it really upset anybody's apple cart, everybody was like "no biggie" (because we're all real riders and suck it up, Buzz), and when you set one of these giro's up, there's a TON of work to them and one mistake in an otherwise perfect event is nothing.

Besides, sometimes it's the stuff that goes wrong that makes the event fun and memorable, as in the first giro when Hurricane Ivan came in and flooded the course, and I mean the Shcharie Creek was WAY out of it's banks; but the image I'll carry with me to the grave of that event was Frank Camelhairy in the middle of a road the creek was sweeping up over with his feet down with the bike stalled out, and the water going up the front of his legs into his lap. That event was some serious fun, but then the charter running of an event usually is. Who was around for the very first Gunstock event we ran? I know Frank was there, but who else?

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