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i know i have project right now cb350. but i would like to have
any one too chime in on what you guys think of the late 60's t500?
i dont know if it would befor the street or track. and if the two
stroke is good for the street at all.

thanks eric
 

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When You say late 60's T500, are you talking about the 67-68 chrome tank Cobra or the 68-75 Titan (technicaly the 68-69 bikes are still cobras but don't have the chrome tank)? I assume you are talking about the chrome tank cobra. They are killer bikes. Suzukis are pretty quick, not as fast as the kawasaki triples of the day, but then again the bike will last you longer. The cobras are really collectible so be prepared to pay big bucks for a chrome tank when you find one. They have a couple of foibles, for instance the oil pump is hooked to the clutch on the early bikes, so when you are waiting for a light you can potentially starve the bike for oil while holding the clutch in. Early bikes have 34mm carbs and make about 44hp. They also weigh between 390 and 411 pounds. The cool part about suzukis is they their two strokes have a very wide flat power band that comes on a little above idle, so it is more of a four stroke riding expirence. They handle fairly well but could use some suspension tuning, espically in the front forks with that external spring that I am not fond of. Other than that they are awsome two strokes for the street. As an addendum, in 1976 the T500 became the gt500 and got a disc brake in the front. Works down in brooklyn is selling a red 1974 with DG pipes for around $1500 if you are interested (there is an ad for it in the for sale section).

here is a good message board for suzi two strokes:

http://nova.fast-servers.net/~sundial/phpBB/index.php?sid=6e05e9e5eafabde4ea8dd822762f068f

and here is a good reference page for the T500:

http://www.ozebook.com/compendium/t500index.htm

and some pics so everybody can see what the bike looks like:

1967 T500 I


1968/69 T500 II


1970 T500 III


1971 T500 (The last of the fast ones and the model I own)





Edited by - Geeto67 on Jan 10 2006 11:50:41 AM
 

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i dont know what kind i would like to look for but more info
the better i like my cb350 but would like something cool and old
for the street. the sport bike and hd guys think there the shinz nit.
so to show them up at bike night would be cool...


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i dont know what kind i would like to look for but more info
the better i like my cb350 but would like something cool and old
for the street. the sport bike and hd guys think there the shinz nit.
so to show them up at bike night would be cool...


eric
It works that way with any old two stroke street bike, you should see how many people tell me about "the widomaker" they used to have or a friend did whenever I show up on a kawasaki triple.

As far as what kind to look for, the earlier ones (1967-1969)are rarer and sought after by collectors. The later ones (1970-1976) are a little more common although the T500 was kind of an off the radar bike so there are not that many today. If you want to put on perfromance parts then try to find one with them already on the bike since there are not a lot of companies making pipes and such and the price of the bike will not be out of line with a stocker, but the pipes can be expensive by themselves.

I really like my candy teal 1971, it's a good looking bike and reminds me a lot of the norton commando I used to have (not the sound, but the ride quality). Since suzuki was influenced by norton in designing the t500 chassis (the TR500s used suzuki built featherbed style frames) it is no surprise that the bikes feel similar. The 72 and later bikes use 32mm carbs instead of 34, and it is possible to tune a later bike up to the earlier specs and beyond so no t500 is a sloutch. A really clean T500 will run you $2000 to $3500 (not show concourse but close), a good clean daily rider should run you $1500-$1900 and anything that is a project should be less than a grand. That is why I think the one works is selling is a deal, since the bike is ready to ride (no problems) in good condition, and comes with DG pipes already installed (which on ebay would cost you $300-500).

Other street two strokes you may consider ar an RD350/400 and a kawasaki H1 or H2. The RD has a thriving aftermarket which means parts are plentiful and cheap. The bikes themselves are in the same price range for a t500 (maybe a little more) and there ain't nobody that doesn't love an RD. As for a triple I would recomend a 1973-1976 H1/kh500. It is a bigger bike physically than the rd or the t500 but there is no sound like a two stroke triple, and properly tuned they will rip your arms off. They are slightly less maintenance intensive than a brit bike, but are far less forgiving when you screw something up. The 73-76 are the tamer h1s which can actually be used for daily riding if you don't mind the vibration (they vibrate less than other models since they are rubber mounted, but it is still a two stroke and two strokes vibrate)
 
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