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So, my test is this Monday at 9.00AM in Red Hook (Brooklyn) and I haven't got any lined up (at least for certain) that has a car and a MC license to go with me to the road test. Anybody here have time Monday to make a quick $50? It would be much appreciated...
 

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why exactly do you need it?? i figured itd be the same as everywhere else. you get your permit, then youre free to ride anywhere. if you fail the test, then you still get to leave on your permit.

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why exactly do you need it?? i figured itd be the same as everywhere else. you get your permit, then youre free to ride anywhere. if you fail the test, then you still get to leave on your permit.

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In NY state you're not supposed to ride with a permit unless someone the has a valid MC license is no more than .25 miles behind you. I've found someone, so disregard this post. I'd delete it, but I don't know how...
 

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In NY state you're not supposed to ride with a permit unless someone the has a valid MC license is no more than .25 miles behind you. I've found someone, so disregard this post. I'd delete it, but I don't know how...
 

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The test is a real pain in the ass. You have to have a guy with a MC license bring a car and you ride the bike. The guy giving the test gets in the car (after checking reggie, insurance and MC license) then follows the guy on the bike getting the test. The testor tells the guy driving the car to beep his horn twice for left turn, once for right etc etc. Then you follow around the guy on the bike getting tested, beeping your fuckin horn and getting yelled at by the testor for beeping wrong, meanwhile the guy on the bike has no fuckin idea what's going on...it's a joke.
I've done it for a few people...I'd rather be on the bike taking the test than giving the douche bag testor a ride.
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The test is a real pain in the ass. You have to have a guy with a MC license bring a car and you ride the bike. The guy giving the test gets in the car (after checking reggie, insurance and MC license) then follows the guy on the bike getting the test. The testor tells the guy driving the car to beep his horn twice for left turn, once for right etc etc. Then you follow around the guy on the bike getting tested, beeping your fuckin horn and getting yelled at by the testor for beeping wrong, meanwhile the guy on the bike has no fuckin idea what's going on...it's a joke.
I've done it for a few people...I'd rather be on the bike taking the test than giving the douche bag testor a ride.
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no, actually i have to say, THAT is the dumbest thing i have ever heard of.


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no, actually i have to say, THAT is the dumbest thing i have ever heard of.


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no, actually i have to say, THAT is the dumbest thing i have ever heard of.


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Here is one more for ya, the reason you have to have another friend with a motorcycle license bring a car is that the tester is not required to have a motorcycle license to test people for a motorcycle license. The have no idea what good motorcycle control is as many of them have never ridden one. In my neighborhood most of the DMV testers are FOB immigrants (ok they have been here a while but everyone barely speaks english), they are easy to distract, but the indian ones can be real hardasses. My brother executed a perfect test but while going down some neighborhood back streets back toward the start/finish line somebody backed out in front of him quickly and he jammed on the brakes managed to move out of harms way quickly and stalled the bike in the process. The tester failed him despite what I felt was a good situation control and accident reflexes. I almost choked the life out of that tester, I yelled at him for a solid half hour but they wouldn;t retest my brother that day. Eventually he went again with a rented 125 and passed.

Decades ago when my father started riding (early 1960s) the tester used to sit on the back of the bike (usually with no helmet as it was not required back then) and administer the test, can you think of anything more dangerous than gettin on the back of a nervous newbie's bike (who probably never carried a passenger before). After a few too many workers comp claims from motorcycle accidents they went to a parking lot test with a lot of cones. Sometime in the 1980s they gave up on the parking lot test because it was too difficult to coordinate with car road tests and was not real world driving expirence. Thus the requirement that you need to know somebody with a motorcycle license to get a motorcycle license, the car, the horns, the whole rigamarole. Oh and if you fail, the guy with the car and the valid motorcycle license has to ride the bike out of the test area.
 

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no, actually i have to say, THAT is the dumbest thing i have ever heard of.


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Here is one more for ya, the reason you have to have another friend with a motorcycle license bring a car is that the tester is not required to have a motorcycle license to test people for a motorcycle license. The have no idea what good motorcycle control is as many of them have never ridden one. In my neighborhood most of the DMV testers are FOB immigrants (ok they have been here a while but everyone barely speaks english), they are easy to distract, but the indian ones can be real hardasses. My brother executed a perfect test but while going down some neighborhood back streets back toward the start/finish line somebody backed out in front of him quickly and he jammed on the brakes managed to move out of harms way quickly and stalled the bike in the process. The tester failed him despite what I felt was a good situation control and accident reflexes. I almost choked the life out of that tester, I yelled at him for a solid half hour but they wouldn;t retest my brother that day. Eventually he went again with a rented 125 and passed.

Decades ago when my father started riding (early 1960s) the tester used to sit on the back of the bike (usually with no helmet as it was not required back then) and administer the test, can you think of anything more dangerous than gettin on the back of a nervous newbie's bike (who probably never carried a passenger before). After a few too many workers comp claims from motorcycle accidents they went to a parking lot test with a lot of cones. Sometime in the 1980s they gave up on the parking lot test because it was too difficult to coordinate with car road tests and was not real world driving expirence. Thus the requirement that you need to know somebody with a motorcycle license to get a motorcycle license, the car, the horns, the whole rigamarole. Oh and if you fail, the guy with the car and the valid motorcycle license has to ride the bike out of the test area.
 

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i passed the test (not really hard at all). oh, you have to make 3 left hand circles in the street, then 3 right hand circles in the street, and last 3 figure eights. you do all this in a space that's about 3.5 lanes wide. so, now i'm legit and can legally give my wife a ride on my bike (not that it stopped me before). oh, i'll post some pics of my hoopty later today...and yes, the test was ridiculous.
 

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i passed the test (not really hard at all). oh, you have to make 3 left hand circles in the street, then 3 right hand circles in the street, and last 3 figure eights. you do all this in a space that's about 3.5 lanes wide. so, now i'm legit and can legally give my wife a ride on my bike (not that it stopped me before). oh, i'll post some pics of my hoopty later today...and yes, the test was ridiculous.
 

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So, my test is this Monday at 9.00AM in Red Hook (Brooklyn) and I haven't got any lined up (at least for certain) that has a car and a MC license to go with me to the road test. Anybody here have time Monday to make a quick $50? It would be much appreciated...
That is crazy! Down here in NC, all you have to do is either bring a certificate from a MRF class or take a written test and then go out and get on a bike (yours) and ride through a series of cones, stop, signal stop/go, do a u-turn. I think that's it. It was pretty simple. They prefer you take the MFR that way they don't have to set up the cones (they are after all State Employees).
 

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So, my test is this Monday at 9.00AM in Red Hook (Brooklyn) and I haven't got any lined up (at least for certain) that has a car and a MC license to go with me to the road test. Anybody here have time Monday to make a quick $50? It would be much appreciated...
That is crazy! Down here in NC, all you have to do is either bring a certificate from a MRF class or take a written test and then go out and get on a bike (yours) and ride through a series of cones, stop, signal stop/go, do a u-turn. I think that's it. It was pretty simple. They prefer you take the MFR that way they don't have to set up the cones (they are after all State Employees).
 

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In Cali you take the motocycle safety class which is not related to the DMV. They do some pretty detailed study with you in a big parking lot at a college (most i know of anyways). Then you take the card to the DMV and do a written, whats all I think we have to do someone correct me if I am wrong.

Also what is the shelf life of that card you get for passing? I haven't taken the DMV written test and its been a year or so.
 
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