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Am I confused or doesn't BOCES have a ton of adult and continuing education options?
Not as many as they used to. I didn't see A&P in their latest catalog, just basic automotive collision and repair. Either way if he is in NYC he's going to have to go to long island for the classes.
 

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There are a bunch of people doing that with the Ape (Piaggio - see below). I wanted to bring back an old Ercolino (Moto Guzzi). Of all the things I passed on over there, my biggest regret is probably the Ercolino with tank treads. That thing was awesome and it was only a couple of grand. Of course, they would have busted my balls about shipping it. I am sure it was one of those free bikes are the most expensive kind of deals, but it was super cool. They had been using it in a vineyard and then just left it outside for a decade or two. Haven't seen one since.

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Yeah I never meant to imply that my CM is the bike I'm going to invest my time into, just info on what I have experience with.
you disassmbled a motorcycle? meh.



Weird that it's not "cool" to call them cafe racers on caferacer.net, but ok. Noted.
You didn't call them "cafe racers" you called them "cafe'" which is why we are making fun of you. Just call them motorcycles.


I'm 27, so BOCES isn't really an option. I'm not in a situation where I could quit my job and put myself back through school, so I'll need to take classes at night or on weekends, one at a time most likely, all which puts me at a disadvantage.
Start looking at technical schools. There is someplace called "welding fantasy camp" which I think gives like $100 day courses but that's just enough info to get you in trouble. Real welding coruses where you end up a certified welder are going to be a couple grand.
 

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you disassmbled a motorcycle? meh.
Who say's I was bragging about this? Just a point of reference of something I've done minor work on.


You didn't call them "cafe racers" you called them "cafe'" which is why we are making fun of you. Just call them motorcycles.
As much as I appreciate you correcting me, I'm gonna call them whatever I want. I don't care if people "make fun" of me about it, as long as I get the info I'm looking for. If everyone wants to act all high and mighty about what you're supposed to call them just to troll me, that's fine. But everyone knows what I meant so what does it matter?


Start looking at technical schools. There is someplace called "welding fantasy camp" which I think gives like $100 day courses but that's just enough info to get you in trouble. Real welding coruses where you end up a certified welder are going to be a couple grand.
I've seen those classes. They have a intro and more "advanced" classes but they're really isn't much fabrication involved and I don't think i'd be comfortable welding a load bearing structure together by the end of it. It's looking like technical welding courses for me.

Thanks again.
 

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As much as I appreciate you correcting me, I'm gonna call them whatever I want. I don't care if people "make fun" of me about it, as long as I get the info I'm looking for. If everyone wants to act all high and mighty about what you're supposed to call them just to troll me, that's fine. But everyone knows what I meant so what does it matter?
Some day in the future, if you continue down this road with motorcycles, you are going to stumble on your original post and you are going to finally realize how unintentionally hilarious it is, and suddenly all the subsequent jokes here will be very funny. Until then...try your best to not be humorless and take this too seriously, mmmmkay?
 

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We knew what you meant, we were just yankin your chain. Daddy always told me; you only tease the people you like, the ones you don't like you ignore. ;) Just think of it as people here really like you, if they start to ignore you you'll have a bigger problem.
 

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Just dont do things like Pipeburn does, for example:

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Maybe there is someone out there that likes this. But to me it looks ugly and cheap
The basic concept is OK and looks like it was well made, but it lacks imagination and vision. The idea of an integrated tank/fairing/instrument cluster has been explored before. This incarnation looks like a dog basket draped over the tank. IMHO
 

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The basic concept is OK and looks like it was well made, but it lacks imagination and vision. The idea of an integrated tank/fairing/instrument cluster has been explored before. This incarnation looks like a dog basket draped over the tank. IMHO
solves the no front fender issue, but creates the cleaning the crap accumulated under the headlight issue.
 

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don't need a title for a café!

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Just dont do things like Pipeburn does, for example:

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Maybe there is someone out there that likes this. But to me it looks ugly and cheap

Actually I kinda like that!
 

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I don't know why these guys won't just give you the real answer. I like you so I will. There are no classes that will teach you how to build a cafe racer. There may be some classes which may teach you some specific skills that will be useful such as welding, machining, etc. They are just skills that then need to be applied to your specific task.

With that out of the way, here is your real answer; build a race bike and go racing. you will then have a focus for applying the skills you need to get a bike on the race track. If you want to go vintage racing then get a Honda CB350, rebuild the forks, replace the steering head bearings, swing arm bushings and rear shocks. Put on a set of superbike bars and race compound tires. Safety wire it and go racing. I absolutely guarantee that a bike set up that way is capable of turning faster lap times than you are at any track available to you. Once you are on the track, with a still street legal bike( once you put the lights back on) you can start making informed intelligent choices about what the bike needs in order to get better laptimes. It might be better brakes, it might mean bigger forks, it might mean better ground clearance in turns or it might mean more performance.

A better way to go would be to buy a KTM RC390 to go along with the duke and convert it to a track bike. You will still have plenty of work to do on it which will help prepare you for building a bike.

Once you get a few years racing under your belt, then you won't need to ask about classes.
 

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don't need a title for a café!

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Actually I kinda like that!
I like almost everything but the tank/hood thing
 

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Well I figure you would need to be a mason with a background in construction. I mean bricklaying is it's own art. Plus interior design as well as a functional understanding of restaurant space design. I mean its a lot.

still I think some of the best cafe's happen organically and reflect the owner/operators sense of unique flair:

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Geeto - where is this? Or were these found pictures?
 
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