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This is the build with just the pictures I could find. I have brought it a long way since I bought it.



























Most Recent Pictures - as of 7/13/2014







I will get good pictures posted as soon as I can!
 

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Neat. Keep the stock paint. The seat looks better with you on it. Get a fork brace, the XS3.6 is heavy enough to flex the forks when braking. Put the clip-ons on top of the forks (on top of the triple clamp), you have the cool photos, now ride the thing in comfort and control.

How many times has the tire slammed the fender?

Danger, is my business.

PS: don't ride around with no gloves, with SK8 shoes and a T-shirt on those tires. Danger, is my business , not growing back skin as my business. Women like grumpy sweaty guys in full leathers.
 

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bifalconer, care to explain the reasoning in a few choices you have made:

-why do you have a rear dirt (dual sport) tire in the front?
-why did you lower the bike?

cheers
At least he hasn't rubbed all the paint off, and given rust a place to live. Or fitted clown rubber. Or cut the mufflers off with a sawzall. Or thrown the airbox in a ditch. Or a gotten tuning fork neck tattoo (I'm guessing with that one folks! ;) )

I'll give him three Witworth points for his efforts: W* W* W*.

Hey I don't like that speedo cable flapping around in the breeze much, without a cable guide, next to the chunky tire. Your cable, you choose.

Danger, is my business.
 

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The only reason your not getting ripped is bc at least you kept the air box...everything else is a pretty big fail. Put the front fender back on or get a brace, lift the bike back up where it belongs, this isn't a car and lowering it is not helping you, you look relatively young but I promise you that riding it like that with low bars and stock pegs is doing damage you will feel in a few years, oh and it gives you less control of the bike. Not more. Props on keeping the exhaust, paint and air box, but in my opinion I think you took the bike backwards as far as a functioning motorcycle goes. But heck...that's just my opinion and your the one who gets to ride it.


Did you address the 40 year old front fork seals? 40 year old rear shocks? 40 year old bushings? 40 year old neck bearings? There wasn't much right up but if you haven't, you need to address all the maintained items as well.
 

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Those bikes are fairly rare, not the most aesthetically pleasing design, but IMO you would have been better off replacing the seat and keeping it stock. It would have been worth more, and probably been more functional in mint condition than all hacked up. Something in a little rougher condition and a bit more easy to come by would have been a better choice to play with. Now having said that...

You are young and yes you have made mistakes, but that's how we learn....as long as we can admit we screwed up in the first place. It's your bike and you are going to do what you want with it, but my advice is to avoid jumping onto the bandwagon...the realistic side of the 'cafe scene' is more about overall performance enhancement, not the world of awkward handling choppers and bobbers where function takes a back seat to form...build with your brain, not your eyes. Ask questions, listen to what the old farts have to say about your pride and joy and try to incorporate some of their advice into your bike. If you do, in the end you will have something that not only looks good but rides and handles better than the standard machine.
 

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I have an even rarer , '77 XS360D2 out in the shed, the bare bones version with a front drum brake & kick starter only.

It was originally Yamaha chappy red like your bike, however some idiot po painted it yellow. If you decide to paint your bike, I want to trade you fenders, side covers and tank for what I have. You will then have a good set of body parts to repaint without ruining those originals.
 

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Hey, this is going much nicer than I thought it would when I read the first post! This bike could be a lot worse. Riding in shorts and vans is the worst thing I see in those pics.
 

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Hey, this is going much nicer than I thought it would when I read the first post! This bike could be a lot worse. Riding in shorts and vans is the worst thing I see in those pics.
Sure it could but is that what we are doing now...hey that could be a lot worse...insert reach around here...For a first attempt its not bad but there are rookie mistakes and overlooks that need ot be fixed for it even be safe.
 

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Oh, I agree, but that had all been covered. It doesn't look like anything permanently damaging has been done yet.
 

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still, I don't think the OP is going to come back. I don't think he was looking for a critique of his work when he posted, I think he generally believes he did a good job and was expecting praise.
 

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This is my in town cruiser. I'm only 16, I have learned to tear a bike down, mount a tire, understand electronics, and build the bike I personally enjoy. I have done nothing that can't be brought back to stock (rear tail was removed in a way that can be put back). Everyone has their own opinion but narrow mindedness breeds boredom and critics.
 

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Not Ebaying it. What is unsafe? We have checked the bearings in the neck, checked the wheel bearings, I did lower an inch in front, it does not hit.
I chose the tires because I liked the look, Brat style I guess. I dropped the front to level it out. Front tire is not a rear tire.
I have been fortunate to be able to help/watch a local bike builder build from frame up. This is my first toy and it works and gets positive comments.
Please let me know what on the bike is unsafe.

P.S. The picture of my brother on the bike with shorts and a T-Shirt on, he had to ride it home because I was getting stitches because I cut my head open.
 

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Nothing wrong with criticism. That's how things become better, unless it's too scathing.

I think you've done a reasonable job. You haven't trashed a good stock bike out of a want of "style", and boredom.

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bifalconer: "Please let me know what on the bike is unsafe. "

-Well I wouldn't ride with those tires on the road, the forks lowered, the clipons that low and no fender without any fork bracing.

The thing about customising a bike is you can effectively take away 3% of stability here, 15% of braking ability there, etc, etc. It all can add up to a bike that is about half as good to ride as a bone stock one.

I prefer to make bikes 50% better to ride than stock, that's all.

With all this effort, have you changed the fork oil?

Don't get me wrong, what you have done has been done well, but you can do way better with good advice.

Danger, is my business.
 

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What is unsafe? ...
Please let me know what on the bike is unsafe.
unsafe:
- lack of fork brace/front fender
- inadequate rear shocks setup for the rider that may lead to the tire contacting the rear when you bottom out
- those tires, esp with your current suspension setup
- the amount you have lowered those forks. If I were to ask you what your rake and trail was could you answer or was that even a consideration?
- the missing right side mirror

Unwise:
- no rearsets (or any consideration to riding position)
- the really low position of those clipons

Knowing now that you are 16 is really telling about why the bike looks like it does, you didn't build it from any riding experience you just looked on the internets for what you thought looked good and built that. racking up hundreds of miles and making changes to fit your riding style should be the thing that drives this bike - your mods should improve the riding experience first and the curb appeal second.

I'm guessing the local builder you shadowed doesn't build race bikes or any kind of on track bikes, which means while the quality of the work might be good, the adaption of the bike falls short if it employed a "chopper" mentality. It's obvious the bike is just a restyle as there are no mechanical improvements, and a bike like that could use a lot of mechanical improvements (better forks, better brakes, etc...)

I'm sure it gets very positive comments in the real world, most laypeople in real life have no idea what they are looking at and those that do are not going to go out of their way to tell you what's wrong.

It's really not a bad first effort, you can correct a lot of stuff fairly easily and that will make it easier to keep going with it making it better as you rack up the miles. Unfortunately because it is a 360 if you rack up any serious miles on it you may outgrow it before the hair to dump tons of money into it strikes.
 
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