Johnny, I started my mini motard hybrid today. I have the 03 cr85 chasis and the wheels all ready. I just haven't decided on the power plant. I'm either going with an xr200 (which I already have) or a crf150 (not the R model cause those are for wimps).
Joe - As the whole package it seems expensive but if you did it piece by piece and then had your suspension done it would be more. I think their prices on bits are pretty reasonable. I also like the fact they take in to considering the added weight of the new vehicle its under and add that to the new rider weight. A lot people fuck that up.
Johnny - Thats why I haven't decided on the motor. The mini class I'm in is loud up to 199cc. I've been running an xr100 against 150Rs so anything is going to be better, but I wanted something with lots of torque. The chasis will be roughly the same physical size as what I'm rideing but with much better dampening and torque. Unfortunately I have the added weight. I do run the KTM with slicks on my mini track now, as long as I stay in rhythm, its not bad. So the 200 is doable, I just haven't made my mind up about the 150F yet. My brothers didn't seem much different in power once we changed a few things.
I'd go with CRF150...one reason...it's newer, means more stuff probably and easier to get in a few years...even though they did make a lot of stuff for the 200. The 150 has got to be lighter right? Although I heard the early 150 engine is pretty much the same weight as the 200.
I know my 150 is just a tad short on balls, not much, maybe 2-3hp, just not quite the grunt to break it loose when you need to sometimes. In my case...maybe it's gearing. I've yet to get out of third gear on my little track, and I can't see ever needing 5th gear for much of anything....the way it's geared now.
BTW...how do you guys handle shifting on these bikes. I have a bad habit of not using the clutch much except on downshifts...and even then I'm doing a lot of quick stomping...is that normal. It shifts good, but I'm feeling like I'm being kind of rough on it, are they made to take it?
but theres no brake, no wheel, you have to get the valving done after, etc....ive looked at dt clamps, which i realize are different, but clamps are clamps. and if you have a connection at a honda shop...or work for a honda dealer.....and what kind of rear shock is that? for over 1800, it seems steep. especially when there are these kinds of deals out there.
Joe - I didn't say I'd pay that much, I've just seen them for more.
Branson - I clutch when needed. Like when your going at a good clip but need to lift the front. I think I clutch out of habit driving it down the road but I know that I don't clutch on my track or in the woods. I rarely use it for down shifts even.