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I've been looking at the racing pics on this site and got to wondering "Why do all the bikes have rear sets mounted so high?" Now, if you're a midget, need ground clearance for fast cornering, or just not tall, those high mounted rearsets might be just the thing. I'm a 6'5" animal who would prefer not to pick his nose on his knees while riding, and so needs (read "wants") something other than regular foot controls. So, what's the answer to this dilemma?

Afterthought - Is Raask's reputation for breaking deserved? When do they break? I mean, under what conditions and are they consistent about it?

If the answer is obvious to YOU, don't laugh , I really want to know.

"Not yet racing" Stattz.
 

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For a street bike it's most likely about looks and comfort. For a race bike it's also about ground clearance and possibly weight position for some. There are racers on this site that lean a vintage bike as much as the modern guys. Rider size definitely plays a part also.

As far as Raask, I've always heard they brake easy. Personally I've had them on my 550 for years. Took one 40mph fall, nothing broke. I have used the pegs on racebikes and have not had them break under numerous crashes. Of course I've always used the folding pegs. They're not the best but they work and they're bolt on for most bikes.

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ive used them for a bunch of years for racing. i think they have that stigma attached to them. yeah, theyre pot metal crap, cast and not the nicest looking stuff, but they do work. mine fold also, ive crashed, well, once or twice i have, and ive never broken one. actually, ive crashed alot on mine. i did manage to actally have one smash up and had the shifter linkage on the shift rod break and the linkage wrapped itself around the peg. but ive had pretty good luck with them. the nice thing is, alot of people have boxes of parts for them, and when they move on to better setups, they want to just give them away. so i have piles of misc modded, bent, welded, and various other abortions that people have given me. as well as alot of good spares. so thats one plus. and oh yeah, i bought mine from todd henning.
 

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See, I told ya.

J "setting johnny up for posting cool pics" D

c'mon zach, where's yours? aaron, I know you have some.
 

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the problem with the casting process is that is not a process designed for strength and can create parts with a wide varation of strengths. it is also an easy process to get contamination in which can further weaken a part.

I think a lot of it depends on the bike. I have owned about three sets of raask rearsets in my life. 1 got sold with a bike I had before it broke, but they were on there for a couple of months, that was a honda. The set I had on my kawasaki triple broke, but they were solid mounted and the vibration of a two stroke overcame them. Lost of guys with triples report this as being a problem. Stupidly I bought another set for my h1 but this time I am going to rubber mount them. The third set I had on a different honda, but they were used and the brake pedal broke right away (when I stepped on the pedal). replaced them with another pedal and have been fine since.

The older raask pieces are russian roulette (6+ years or older, basically any from the 1990s), the newer stuff is a little better. You will probably be alright on them. I think the older ones over time tend to get more brittle.

Personally I like to make and modify stuff which is why I always go for factory made parts off sport bikes and adapt them to work on my bikes. it is stronger and really not that hard to do if you have some skills. for the price of a set of raasks that just bolt on and go, I can build a set using junkyard parts that look just as cool and feel a little more durable.

at 6'5" you are the same height as me. On old hondas I find the rear passenger peg location idea for a rearset location. cafe racers are solo bikes anyway so ditch the apssenger pegs and put some rearsets on there.
 

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the problem with jbs picture isnt that his sets arent high enough, its thats his fucking ski like feet arn't in the right spot. if you had your toes on the pegs, instead of your heels, youd probably save a few bucks in boots. you god damned yetti! i used to drag my toes around everywhere. took 2 pairs of boots and about 4 race weekends before that problem was solved. and i hate seeing peoples toes sticking out. just looks wrong.

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jb, you know what they say about big feet? Guess little feet Joe C. will never know.... he..he...

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In that photo I think I just finished the 5th-3thrd downshift and was still finding the peg with my left foot.
At my size compromises are necessary...putting the ball of my foot on the peg can make things very cramped at times.

But thanks for the advice....on the track I'd have to slow down about 8 seconds a lap to follow you and learn something.

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johnny, getting off the bike would stand it up and give you some more clearance. Just trying to help, boots are expensive.

Amen Unga, but you'll notice johnny doesn't have knee sliders. need to step into the 1980s johnny and get yourself some teflon for those lanky-ass legs.

Z



Edited by - paced_haste on Dec 02 2005 5:36:51 PM
 

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Amen Unga, but you'll notice johnny doesn't have knee sliders. need to step into the 1980s johnny and get yourself some teflon for those lanky-ass legs.
Those leathers were from a cow that died the same year that bike was made....
 

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be nice to john. mary wears leathers from the same cow. That's how they bonded. heheheh
 

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what, out in a field someplace killing thier dinner with their bare hands. then john thought to himself, 'man, i bet if i could get her on a bike.....'


the rest is history.


whats the excuse for the brake side? let me guess, you were using the rear to settle the suspension in mid corner jeeze, i should have known by the forks being compressed.


hey, the fonz wore brown leathers. so they gotta be cool right?

dont blame me, its the beer talking.

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See...I ain't no newbie...don't need fancy shit to go fast.

And I take advice from people that are faster than me...which means about three people on this forum. And two of them have spoken up already. And neither one of them have the initials JC.

You'll note my hand is not on the brake lever...suspension is compressed due to corner speed...something you wouldn't know much about.





Believe me...a guy my size, on a bike this size...this old, ain't going to get over much farther.....yes I could get off the seat some, that would help...so far I don't need to. I don't have to try that hard to whoop ass in my class.

Here's another for you



That's not Roper Lapping me...that's me passing him for the third time coming up the hill at Frontier. Bruce took the photo cause he couldn't believe his eyes.
You fartbags don't even breath the same freakin air as me, sit down, back to your place, stop reaching up and trying to touch my boots, my skillz will just slap you back down.
Rob...Zack....I'll listen to...the rest of you....SIT THE FUCK DOWN PLEASE. STOP DREAMING YOU CAN TELL ME SOMETHING....I FUCKIN OWN YOU GUYS....ALL YOUR DREAMS ARE BELONG TO MEEEEE!!!!!
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JB,

Geesh, bro did you have coffee yet? I seen your skills and I agree they have nothing on you, so dont worry bro I got your back. Bring it biatches!

Alex

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