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Hear me out. The whole reason we are making this stuff is because you can't buy most of it. When we started our bike a little over 2yrs ago now. I started looking for engine covers to replace the beat up one's on our bike. The only thing I could find was the Joker Machine stuff. Don't get me wrong they make nice stuff. BUT who needs an open clutch cover? Sure it looks cool on a Ducati. But on a bike where the clutch is basically a lever arm with a Stainless wire that has a barrel lead end on it. Who the F wants to see that?
Here are a few things that we finished up this week. Again if your in the Detroit area come check it out. Detroit Auto Rama booth 532A (Feb 24-26. Just mention your from this site to me and I will have a cold beer for ya. Its that easy. Thanks for listening. Glad to slowly become accepted to the forum. I will tread lightly this time.

Here are a few pics for some of you who won't make it to Detroit.

Tappet Valve Plugs. 3 versions


Exhaust Flange 3 versions



Our gas tank kit. We did an internal tank then fiberglass sides. That way when you lay your bike down. You only have to replace the glass and not a tank.




Some engine covers and velocity stacks
 

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It's not that we don't want to offer it to forum members we do. Trust me after 2yrs of designing and making parts. I am running out of money with this project. Hence the reason I don't even have a bike anymore. I do but it's in a few hundred pieces. It was a guinea pig for our parts. We need to make some of this investment back. But what I like about this forum and the reason I keep coming back like a pimple on a teenager. Is everyone has strong opinions here good or bad they voice them. We can all learn from that. I know if someone here hates our shit, I will hear it. That is all good by us. I just was sorta waiting for a barrage of people to give me shit about CNC'd parts. But I don't know any other way to make them nice and accurate. Waterjet would be nice but I need $170,000.00. We needed something someone would want to buy. Our goal was to make parts that don't scream.. HEY LOOK AT ME I JUST CAME OFF THE CNC MILL!!! Believe it or not that's really hard to do when your stuff is coming off a CNC Mill. Our goal is that if you painted these parts yourself on a project they would just blend in a bit. But still look new not worn. A bit modern with a flair of vintage.

What you see will be offered in, Black, Clear, Machined, Red, and polished. All colors being anodized.

quote:Originally posted by ukTony

very very nice stuff and why shouldnt you be ok to offer the parts to board members ;)
 

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It's not that we don't want to offer it to forum members we do. Trust me after 2yrs of designing and making parts. I am running out of money with this project. Hence the reason I don't even have a bike anymore. I do but it's in a few hundred pieces. It was a guinea pig for our parts. We need to make some of this investment back. But what I like about this forum and the reason I keep coming back like a pimple on a teenager. Is everyone has strong opinions here good or bad they voice them. We can all learn from that. I know if someone here hates our shit, I will hear it. That is all good by us. I just was sorta waiting for a barrage of people to give me shit about CNC'd parts. But I don't know any other way to make them nice and accurate. Waterjet would be nice but I need $170,000.00. We needed something someone would want to buy. Our goal was to make parts that don't scream.. HEY LOOK AT ME I JUST CAME OFF THE CNC MILL!!! Believe it or not that's really hard to do when your stuff is coming off a CNC Mill. Our goal is that if you painted these parts yourself on a project they would just blend in a bit. But still look new not worn. A bit modern with a flair of vintage.

What you see will be offered in, Black, Clear, Machined, Red, and polished. All colors being anodized.

quote:Originally posted by ukTony

very very nice stuff and why shouldnt you be ok to offer the parts to board members ;)
 

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Grant, the last time you showed up here you didn't come with parts, you were showing off a bike. Said bike drew criticism because rather than take the time to engineer an improved bike, the bike you built looked like you ran around and grabbed elements off every form over function bike. Clearly we were not your audience but you did not know that as you were new to this end of the hobby. words were had, we tried to help, but in the end you picked up your toys and went elsewhere.

that being said - I do like the parts you make now, I feel they fill a niche.

it isn't that you have to tread lightly - it is just that you need to understand where you are. the majority of people here are racers, engineers, designers, shop owners, and others related to the motorcycle industry. In many ways having access to this much collective talent can be a useful tool if you understand that anytime people here see a functional flaw with your parts they are going to tell you and not pull any punches. the may also ask you to scientifically justify decisions you have made on certain parts (like the velocity stacks - there is a science to those you know, it isn't just make a bell shape). ca va?

to that end I say welcome back.
 

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Grant, the last time you showed up here you didn't come with parts, you were showing off a bike. Said bike drew criticism because rather than take the time to engineer an improved bike, the bike you built looked like you ran around and grabbed elements off every form over function bike. Clearly we were not your audience but you did not know that as you were new to this end of the hobby. words were had, we tried to help, but in the end you picked up your toys and went elsewhere.

that being said - I do like the parts you make now, I feel they fill a niche.

it isn't that you have to tread lightly - it is just that you need to understand where you are. the majority of people here are racers, engineers, designers, shop owners, and others related to the motorcycle industry. In many ways having access to this much collective talent can be a useful tool if you understand that anytime people here see a functional flaw with your parts they are going to tell you and not pull any punches. the may also ask you to scientifically justify decisions you have made on certain parts (like the velocity stacks - there is a science to those you know, it isn't just make a bell shape). ca va?

to that end I say welcome back.
 

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and here is your first crisicism:

the smoothie valve adjustment caps you make for the cb750, they need some hidden way for a person to loosen them off a hot engine. I can't tell if they are knurled on the side or not but still - valve adjustments are part of owning a cb750 and sometimes those caps need to come off when the engine is hot. The stock ones usually don't come off easy after 100 heat cycles with a wrench so not giving them a purchase could be a problem. maybe two hidden pin holes and a pin hole tool would work?
 

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and here is your first crisicism:

the smoothie valve adjustment caps you make for the cb750, they need some hidden way for a person to loosen them off a hot engine. I can't tell if they are knurled on the side or not but still - valve adjustments are part of owning a cb750 and sometimes those caps need to come off when the engine is hot. The stock ones usually don't come off easy after 100 heat cycles with a wrench so not giving them a purchase could be a problem. maybe two hidden pin holes and a pin hole tool would work?
 

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Nice looking parts - I like the idea for the tank. If your looking for new parts to create - how about a replacement oil/battery assembly for a honda cb750's. Better yet make a whole assembly kit consisting of the oil tank, battery mount and mount for the electronics with side covers. You could start marketing them on ebay (like joker) with a link to your web site.

The parts your making now are nice but it's nickel dime stuff that everyone now makes. I wish you success..
 

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Nice looking parts - I like the idea for the tank. If your looking for new parts to create - how about a replacement oil/battery assembly for a honda cb750's. Better yet make a whole assembly kit consisting of the oil tank, battery mount and mount for the electronics with side covers. You could start marketing them on ebay (like joker) with a link to your web site.

The parts your making now are nice but it's nickel dime stuff that everyone now makes. I wish you success..
 

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If you look at our bike we did just that. We are working on offering said item's. The issue is we want to make it so you don't need serious fab skills. Our battery is mounted under the swing-arm. If you look really close you can see a small black box. That is our battery. We also made out own wiring harness. I did some cool stuff with the wiring harness. If you look on the non-drive side of the bike just above the carbs you will see the dimmer switch from older car. That shuts the power to the bike off. Then if you look really close on the buckets you will see a little black dot btwn the gauges. That is our start button. We have no key or kickstart. This something we would consider doing as well. But the issue's are; labor intensive = cost prohibitive. I don't think most people would pay what we need to charge. We are keeping all of our manufacturing here in the good ole U.S.A. We are a bit of control freaks and I feel it's the only way to fix a problem before it becomes one. We also are making triple trees that will steepen the front-end and shorten trail a bit on these bikes. Better for the turns. Trees will be available for new USD and stock forks. The issue with that then becomes the swing arm. Which you can see a rendering of on our website. We are working on making a new one with Sealed roller bearings and our own swing arm bolt made from Stainless Steel. In computer testing the swing arm has done well. It's also about 3.2lbs lighter than stock. We just need to make it and find the guinea pig who wants to test it.
We also have a very cool pair of Carbon Fiber Clip on's in the works.
I am friends with some very high-end carbon fiber manufactures here in the U.S. They made some special tubes for us that are reinforced at the clamping areas. Hope to have samples for the show.

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Nice looking parts - I like the idea for the tank. If your looking for new parts to create - how about a replacement oil/battery assembly for a honda cb750's. Better yet make a whole assembly kit consisting of the oil tank, battery mount and mount for the electronics with side covers. You could start marketing them on ebay (like joker) with a link to your web site.

The parts your making now are nice but it's nickel dime stuff that everyone now makes. I wish you success..
 

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If you look at our bike we did just that. We are working on offering said item's. The issue is we want to make it so you don't need serious fab skills. Our battery is mounted under the swing-arm. If you look really close you can see a small black box. That is our battery. We also made out own wiring harness. I did some cool stuff with the wiring harness. If you look on the non-drive side of the bike just above the carbs you will see the dimmer switch from older car. That shuts the power to the bike off. Then if you look really close on the buckets you will see a little black dot btwn the gauges. That is our start button. We have no key or kickstart. This something we would consider doing as well. But the issue's are; labor intensive = cost prohibitive. I don't think most people would pay what we need to charge. We are keeping all of our manufacturing here in the good ole U.S.A. We are a bit of control freaks and I feel it's the only way to fix a problem before it becomes one. We also are making triple trees that will steepen the front-end and shorten trail a bit on these bikes. Better for the turns. Trees will be available for new USD and stock forks. The issue with that then becomes the swing arm. Which you can see a rendering of on our website. We are working on making a new one with Sealed roller bearings and our own swing arm bolt made from Stainless Steel. In computer testing the swing arm has done well. It's also about 3.2lbs lighter than stock. We just need to make it and find the guinea pig who wants to test it.
We also have a very cool pair of Carbon Fiber Clip on's in the works.
I am friends with some very high-end carbon fiber manufactures here in the U.S. They made some special tubes for us that are reinforced at the clamping areas. Hope to have samples for the show.

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Nice looking parts - I like the idea for the tank. If your looking for new parts to create - how about a replacement oil/battery assembly for a honda cb750's. Better yet make a whole assembly kit consisting of the oil tank, battery mount and mount for the electronics with side covers. You could start marketing them on ebay (like joker) with a link to your web site.

The parts your making now are nice but it's nickel dime stuff that everyone now makes. I wish you success..
 

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I took a stroll out to your web site - I was unaware you guys were ripping out parts like on your project bike. Kind of makes me jealous not having high-end machining tools to work with myself. I like the under the seat exhaust idea - that looks pretty trick. It would be interesting to hear what that sounds like. I also liked the wheels you guys are making - again looks pretty trick.

On my 69 cb750's, I am keeping my mods to bolt-on's. Since it's unlikely I'll sell these bikes in the near future, I like to keep my options open to restoring the 69's back to original. However; I do have a 71 cb750 project I'll be tearing into this summer and a couple of cb400/4's. I might be interested in some parts for the 71 project and maybe the cb400/4's.

Right now I'm working on a 77 kz900, 69 cb750 turbo and I just picked up a 84 cr500 death machine for ice riding. My motra is if it don't scare me then it's for sale...
 
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