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Didn't we already go over the term "gay" w so hen it's being used to describe something? So to repeat ourselves would ultimately be, Gay.

Call it what you want, there will always be douche bags and posuers so just be what you are. In my case that's a sawed off slighty tubby pissed off hillbilly.

Oh, and don't tell the guys on the Horse website that they're not bikers. They might hinder your supply of skull stickers.
 

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Johnny, I am making you a t-shirt that says:
"Ask me about my lifestyle"
in huge, reflective, 1970's applique letters.

Make it look hateful and I'll wear it.
Better yet...I want one that says"
"Ask me about my Hate-style"

Don't you guys know....it's a new millenium....hate is the new love.

Dang...it's getting harder and harder to side track a topic these days.
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There are "hardcore" vespa riders in this country too ya know. My buddy Tim did a lap of america on a 1962 GS150 with a P200 engine. Started out in New Orleans and basically did a loop around the country. If you ever think the scene-sters are starting to get bad, go and to a scooter rally - they have to have it worse than anybody and their scene has been around since the 60's. They actually have entrenched posurs. Mod lifestyle my arse.


My friend said the funniest thing yseterday and I think it applies to branson now:

Don't mistake hairy and sweatty for warm and fuzzy.



Edited by - Geeto67 on Dec 03 2006 07:28:27 AM
 

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JohnnyB, I am glad to see that you are hating everybody and everything equally. There is no room for predjudice here. I say hete em all the same.
There is a long list of things that I hate that I won't list here, but suffice it to say that posers,lima beans, and lite beer are right at the top.

Ken

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Hey....I'm not perfect....I try to hate everything equally...but I hate some things more than others....but be assured I do hate everyone and everthing, so there is hope that I will some day reach the Level 12 Illuminated Hater, where I will be able to accomplish the Zen like feat of absolute equality of hate.

Hey...it gives me something to live for. (even though I hate life).
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I hate them all. Cause my lifestyle is hate. Hate is easy and fun. I've got a giant hole in my soul that no amount of hate will ever fill up. I hate you, I hate me, I hate haters. I even hate kittens and tiny baby birds.....and Panda bears. In fact I want a Panda Bear fur coat....with it's face made into a hood.


Oh my God, I love you, man. If only you were a chick with big boobs! I don't mean that in a gay sort of way though, no matter what you may have heard. Not that there's anything wrong with gay love - it's just sorta, well, gay. And I'm not. No matter what you may have heard - not that there's anything wrong with that.
 

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Actually, what I think I mean is, I hate you. You suck. I can't stand how much I hate you. I'll be dreaming of how much I hate you tonight when I go to bed, but not in a gay sort of way. That would be kinda, well, gay. And I'm not, no matter what you may have heard... not that there's anything wrong with being gay. I'm just not. no matter what you may have heard.
 

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A bike advertised as "Cafe" because an owner puts a set of clubman bars on it is one thing. Here's another. I hate this ad.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/honda-cb-305-350-360-chopper-cafe-racer-project-axel_W0QQitemZ160059249596QQihZ006QQcategoryZ35581QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

What's really funny is that the seller operates this website.

http://www.nodbags.com/Club Rulez.htm





Edited by - Bret on Dec 03 2006 4:53:34 PM
Wow, just read all his rules and I gotta say that guy is a douche bag. They are funny though. I think the fact he needed to express them in writing on the internet makes him a douche bag. Oh and that ebay axle ad - that is the epitome of douche bag.

The first rule of NOT being a douche bag is not to impose rules on others.

there is one thing I do agree with :

"A man with short man complex will never NOT be a douchebag."

- except A.D. he gets a free pass from me anytime (ain't that right big boy <wink>).

I really like the phrase douche bag.

So here is my thread derailing question - On the internets you can find just about every act of preversion, I've seen fecal fetishes, golden showers, cutters, horse porn...But I have never actually seen a woman use a douche - do you think there is douche fetish porn?
 

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i hate hate. what does that mean anyway? im so confused.

kinda reminds me of this radio show i listen to. a guy always says
"i hate cancer, i hate it so much i beat up people who have it"

i always thought that was funny.

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I think we have pretty well derailed this thread and turned it into a real hatefest. Thanks, Johnny. If we didn't all hate you so much we could elect you king of the world to rule over us in a hateful way.
By the way I think that JudyRamone is gay and may have a fetish about Geeto and his douche bag.

Hatefully,
Ken

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Actually, what I think I mean is, I hate you. You suck. I can't stand how much I hate you. I'll be dreaming of how much I hate you tonight when I go to bed, but not in a gay sort of way. That would be kinda, well, gay. And I'm not, no matter what you may have heard... not that there's anything wrong with being gay. I'm just not. no matter what you may have heard.
Now that's what I'm talking about!!!

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i realize this is an old thread but i thought i'd add a quote from wikipeadia on cafe racers

The cafe racer has a lot in common with the chopper or bobber scene in the USA and both have their roots with post-World War II veterans. While American GIs would take military-spec Harley Davidsons and "chop" off anything unnecessary to improve performance, European veterans took similar measures with their motorcycles. Both looked to make the standard factory motorcycles faster and lighter, although only the Europeans strived for better handling. The defining factor was the difference between the nature of the US and European road systems, the Americans favouring a low heavy cruiser style of motorcycle for straightline comfort; the Europeans preferring a higher, better handling motorcycle more suited to the more twisting roads of their nations.[citation needed] It must be remembered that it was also a style born largely out of the poverty of Post-War Europe and so not given to the excesses of later Harley-Davidson Billet-Barge style customisation.

Café Racers have also been called "Streetfighters" in reference to World War II veterans' fighter airplanes and have been described as the original "sport bikes" of today.



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rise of the Cafe Racer
Just how did the cafes of England's highways and biways become the centers of a whole motorcycle subculture? Why did these quiet little diners and resturants go from serving a lite snack to motorists to be the gathering place of Rockers and their girlfriends. Where did the name Caferacer come from? And just what is a Rocker. To answer all this, two seperate things must be explained, the British road system(for those who've never been to England) and the rise of youth culture.

First you have to look back to the years following WWI. England had come through the war and things were returning to normal. By now the motorways of England were more trafficed with automobiles and motorcycles. No longer were "horseless carriages" or "motorized bicycles" thought of as novelties or fads. They had taken their place amongst the populace as essential additions to the workforce and recreation in general. With this rise in traffic came the creation of a new road system in England. The quaint, old turnpikes and coach roads of yesteryear simply were not able to handle the increase in motorcars and motorcycles on the nation's roads. They were upgraded and augmented by new roads such as the Cambridge and Southend arterial roads, North Circular Road and South Circular road leading out from the center of metropolitan London.

With the nation's industries back to normal, the business of road-haulage and transportaion grew rapidly on the new motorways. Still no where near the modern highways of today, the new roads allowed for the easy shipment of goods from one part of the country to another. And with this new industry, came the many cafe's, petrol stations, and roadside stops that a weary trucker or motorist might want to visit and rest for a while. Nearly overnight a whole new industry sprung up around the motorways, and catering soley to its travellers.

The new motorways had men hauling goods on the "A" roads out and across England to towns like (Manchester, and Birmingham in the North). Now remember, even though these roads were called motorways, they were hardly up to the standard of today's highways, in England or the United States. They were still small and tight. Some were nothing more than the old dirtroads or tracks paved over and fitted with signs. Sharp turns, narrow lanes, and the occasional farmer's herd making a unannounced crossing, all made traffic along these routes slow going at best. Not only that, but the vehicles themselves were rather primitive compared to today's modern hauling vehicles. Some small lorries(trucks) reached speeds no greater than 30mph. So it was common for these haulers to stop every so often along the way. There were usually pullovers every couple of miles along these routes. Often times the pullover were junctions into the smaller villages and towns along the way. At each of these pullovers a cafe would often be found.

For years these cafe's and resturants were only open during the daylight working hours. They catered to and served the weary travellers of the roads with a warm meal and hot cup of tea. Some of the cafe owners, especially the ones that lived on or near the premises, would leave the door open an hour or two later in order to catch a few more customers, but they were by no means social centers or gathering places. They were simple reststops along the new highway system of England.

The second essential factor to this rise of the Caferacer and Rocker was the rise of youth culture, although before WWII, this is a very loose definition. By the early thirties, England had come out of the great depression and young men who were now back at work. With decent jobs, they found themselves with some extra money. Add to this, the sufficient supply of affordable old motorcycles about, and the the result is obvious. Soon scores of young men were taking to the roads. Some to enjoy a nice Sunday afternoon in the country with their sweetheart, others out for a joyride on their new single. Believe it or not, the rockers and the mods weren't the first to drive their bikes or scooters down to Brighton to show off. During the 20's and 30's, "Promenade percys", a title given the young men who swarmed English seaside resorts, would ride up and down the promenade on their motorcycles, showing off.

As England was retooling after the war, literally dozens of different companies offered a wide variety of parts and bikes. Racing had again became a popular pastime and with it came the enthusiasts. Not content with having a standard bike they would often replace stock parts with more elaborate ones they may have seen at Brooklands and other racing events of the time, or they would build a homemade "Special" out of parts from the many bike manufacturing companies that were around.

This all came to an abrupt halt though and at the end of the thirties, these same young men would have to shed their leather jackets for Army uniforms as England once again found itself at war with Germany. During WWII the English government took control over the bike industry for the war effort. With the end of bike production, so came the slow decline of racing and motor cycle enthusiasts. When the war came to an end, it was still seven or eight years before the English could throw away the ration books and resume life as normal, but when it did things would never be the same....

Several things happened at the early part of the fifties that all combined to bring about the rebirth of the cafe racer scene. Again, young men all over the country returned to work and soon found themselves with a bit of spare cash. The English bike industry was at an all time high producing such bikes as the featherbed framed Norton Dominator, the BSA Gold Star, the Triumph Tiger 110, and the Velocette Venom. Not only could you see these great bikes at the many races scattered up and down the country, you could also buy them down at the local dealer! And if you couldn't afford the exact model you wanted, well just throw off those tanks and mudguards and replace and restyled them with all the equipment you had just seen at The Isle of Man TT or Silverstone. With the War ended, young men and motorcycles found themselves together again.

Probably the most important factor in what shaped the Caferacer or Rocker culture was the 50's explosion of what is normally called Youth Culture and its new 'anti-heros'. The sounds of Eddie Cochran, Elvis Presley, and Gene Vincent was heard on the radio. Rock-n-roll had become society's new menace. Marlon Brando and other rebels graced the silver screen in their leather jackets. All of this soon made the motorcycle and its inherent lifestyle the epitome of 'cool' and, understandably, sales soared. Soon such items as clipons, glass fiber tanks, rearsets, and swept back exhaust pipes became standard equipment for any rider and, for the suppliers of the equipment, big business.

Even with the explosion of Youth culture, there wasn't any real places for them to gather or call their own. But when this new breed of bike riders took to the streets and roads, the rediscovery of the Cafe's was inevitable. Soon certain cafe's up and down the North and South Circular road would stay open later and later to accomadate the motorcyclists and their girlfriends. They became the social centers of this new culture. Groups would frequent a local cafe making it theirs. Often times they would race each other from cafe to cafe at speeds of over one hundred miles an hour (hence the term 'ton up'). This, the late nights, and the ominous leather jackets look earned them a bad reputation in the British Press, the police, and even ,funny enough, the British bike industry and from it all a new youth culture was born: The Rocker.
 

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mick,

a fantastic history. your a very talented writer. -tex
 

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JB, you are funny.... didja ever hear that song " i club baby seals" by tesco vee and the hate police (formerly the meatmen)? thats fkn funny......
Hate edge hate edge i hate you hate edge hated i hate you too......
 
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