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OK, Based on your first post we didn't realize you are Donald, Fucking, Trump. And that you have graduated froma motorcycle mechanics institute or can hire someone who has.

There are many routes to coming up with a good name examples below:
Ace Cycles - will get you the patch wearing dudes into your shop and get your name on top of a search (AAAce Would for sure. Later on you can do a A3ce cycles as you get better known.

You could make it a personal nickname that will really tie it to you. But then if you sell it or it goes under it's a little weird. (I won't buy the Kia Soul for this reason. It would freak me out to use phrases like "I wrecked my soul," or "I sold my Soul")

You could make it a regional nickname (like Dime City Cycles)or dig in to Wikipedia and come up with some local historical names Nashville, Michigan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Holler's Mill Cycles
Red-Eye Cycles
Red-Eye Rockers
Hostler Cycles.
Grand River Valley Custom Cycles. (This would be an annoying thing to type for email and web stuff. Short names will get more hits)

By strongly tieing your business to a regional identity you create a terratorial feel that the modern "Rocker" seem to like. It's like joining a gang or having a secret local pass word. It's like having a white oval on the back of your car with three letters that everyone else who dosent recognize is not as cool as you are.

Good luck, keep us posted.
 

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I had the very first official motorcycle mobile servicing business in Britain.
Just because you managed to offload 3 bikes you put together it's no basis for a career move.
Without training you'll probably have issues getting insurance, without liability insurance, you could end up worse than bankrupt
Without a business plan, you WILL fail, without training (and even with it) you could kill someone
 

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The built not bought thing may be a cliche left over chopper term and doesn't directly apply and I'm sure there are people out there looking to buy expensive quality vintage racing bikes or quality "cafe" style collectors. But I have a feeling that market is slim. And the ones that have cash wont even know this guy exists! Most people serious about racing will want to build there own, and the rest of the market is douchey, hipsters who fall into the "dirt cheap Japanese brands" edit: (i like how that already ended up as plutos signature haha i wonder how many geeto quotes there are in signatures to date?) where there is just no money to be made. Especially in Nashville, mi. What pj said about the risk you are incurring is very true too...you are directly putting others lives in your hands. Better have damn good insurance or no conscience.
 

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Says right here that your plan is:
I've been thinking about opening a garage building bikes, more specifically Cafe Racers.
If you don't want to hear the answer, don't ask what people think.
 

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As another business owner (unrelated to mc's) in this form, I would never discourage someone else from starting their own business. I've been in business long enough to run into my own share of speed bumps.

Here's a few points for you to consider:
- The fun stops when you turn a hobby into a business...
- If you don't care about collecting a paycheck every friday - then start your own business.
- There is no such thing as holidays, weekends, vacations and birthdays - all these days become workdays.
- The only way to make a little money is to start with a lot of money.
- Just when you "think" everything is going good - something will happen to knock you down.
- You will spend more time getting your Arss out of jams then you will making money.
- The state and federal gov, bankers, employees, lawyers and customers will be your worst enemy.
- Learn what the word NO means - and use it often.
- One o-shit is worth more than 100 at-a-boys.
- The customer is not always right, but you have to make them think they are.
- Rome was not built in a day and neither will your business.
- What ever bright idea you come up with more than likely is not.
- Employees will steal your every idea, products and money you have.
- There is no such thing as an "equal" partner.

I could keep adding to this list. If your still hell bent on setting the world on fire - have at it. But you have been warned...
 

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As another business owner (unrelated to mc's) in this form, I would never discourage someone else from starting their own business. I've been in business long enough to run into my own share of speed bumps.

Here's a few points for you to consider:
- The fun stops when you turn a hobby into a business...
- If you don't care about collecting a paycheck every friday - then start your own business.
- There is no such thing as holidays, weekends, vacations and birthdays - all these days become workdays.
- The only way to make a little money is to start with a lot of money.
- Just when you "think" everything is going good - something will happen to knock you down.
- You will spend more time getting your Arss out of jams then you will making money.
- The state and federal gov, bankers, employees, lawyers and customers will be your worst enemy.
- Learn what the word NO means - and use it often.
- One o-shit is worth more than 100 at-a-boys.
- The customer is not always right, but you have to make them think they are.
- Rome was not built in a day and neither will your business.
- What ever bright idea you come up with more than likely is not.
- Employees will steal your every idea, products and money you have.
- There is no such thing as an "equal" partner.

I could keep adding to this list. If your still hell bent on setting the world on fire - have at it. But you have been warned...


Thats the American dream right there!!!
 

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Jenks750 said:
Because you aren't aware of my business plan, my investments, my ability to get cheap, efficient parts or make them, or generally what resources I have available.
Forgive us for considering the possibility that you may not have especially ample resources to start and sustain your business. Guys who want to work on motorcycles for a living are typically working stiffs like most of us here, not Money McMoneybags. Plus, anyone who thinks a name for the business is his top priority doesn't exactly give the impression of having had some successful business experience. And, you do list yourself as living in a very small town (1,600 people) in one of the most economically depressed areas of the country. Under the circumstances, I think you would have to tell us a little more about all these "investments" and "plans" and "resources" you have before we would have reason to think you have them.

actually we asked you all about your business plan/model on the first page and you still have yet to answer. There are so many people that come here to jerk off using their keyboard that those wh share information and look like they got their shit together get rewarded, those who are secretive and cryptic are just assumed to be trend jumping morons. Guess where you are falling right now.
Exactly.
 

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OK, you are considering opening a garage. This forum could be helpful to you. There are pro bike mechanics here, parts fabricators, custom builders, and other experts. Lots of guys who have worked on bikes for a living, signed leases for shop space, built bike- related businesses, made money (and lost money), and bought and sold more bikes than you could shake a stick at.

Now, look at the one and only question you have come up with for us. You want us to help you think of a name for the business. Really?
Amen!

-h

Edit: the guy is a troll - suspected it from opening but the response cleared it. Even if not troll the inability to listen to good (and even bad) advise without turning to sour puss means his plan as an entrepenour is doomed.
 

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yikes.

see this is why you need to meet old timer racer guys in real life and not muck about on the internet. Anybody familiar with making a cb750 faster in real life would never have let it get that bad.
 

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I believe he stated in the other thread that he is a broke high school student. I think that would explain everything. That being the case, I would say go ahead and start a business. How much overhead can he have? He can live in his parents' basement until he is 40 and it looks like he already has a cool set of tools.

Ken
 

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You guys are all meanies.....

No productive answers at all.
He asked for a name and thats the only responses that should be given.
We are going to what? Talk him out of it? Explain that shit work will get him no where? He doesnt know that once the next bandwagon comes along he will have to go to the salvation army to get a different outfit?
Its the web, no one gives a crap.

Dick Riders was fitting and as far as I can tell the best answer
 

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Mayb OP is unemployed and needs to do something?
Best definition I've heard of business though, 'If you HAVE to be there, it's a job'
 

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(I won't buy the Kia Soul for this reason. It would freak me out to use phrases like "I wrecked my soul," or "I sold my Soul")
Me too, who the fuck wants a 'Key Asshole' :eek:
 

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He'll go from being a broke high school student to a broker motorcycle business owner. A friend of mine owned Gwinnett Brake Service, didn't have a clue how to run a business. One day I went to the printer and had an "O" made that matched his signage and changed the "A" in "BRAKE" to an "O". He didn't know it for about a week.
To open a legitimate powder coating shop takes between $30-$50K, you won't see any profit for about 2 years at least. I 'don't know how anyone who is a broke high school student can even think about what it takes to open a business. After many business's of my own I have learned the owner is the last one to get paid IF there is any money left at the end of the month.
A name for the business should be the last thing on the list to consider.
 

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to put it simply you're not going to turn a profit selling bikes unless they

feature a lot of high end stuff you can either get at a ridiculous discount, or have made yourself (efficiently, not spending a week fabbing a headlight ear, which takes a good deal of experience you may not have yet)

are built by a "famous" builder (you're not famous yet until you can pony up some investors or a shitload of your own cash to buy a tv show to make you famous)

base your model on retail, getting traffic from the press your bikes generate (see above re: what press costs), oh yeah, and retail is nickel and dime, people are going to expect you to have everything in stock, and when you make $5 off a $45 tail light, things are going to get dicey for you quite soon unless you've ponied up a lot of cash or low interest credit for a big inventory up front

fourthly... it's unlikely those who are making a living doing it are going to shed much light on how it works for them, there's not much of a market so people aren't going to give away information that may make it harder for them to earn a paycheck
 

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And as with any business - not a bad idea to work in the field in somebody else's establishment first. You can learn what works and what doesn't and make connections quite risk free.
 
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