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Anybody ever heard of this or something like it, a '75 CB400F done up with a 450 kit, some HRC parts etc by some dude that sounded something like that. Apparently very rare and desirable. I wish I could understand the guy that was telling me about it, 'cause it sounds pretty f'ing cool, but I think he'd had a few beers.

I know where you can get one if you just gotta have it. Under "book" value FWIW.


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kaz was the man. he did cb400, 500's. fr, google kaz yoshima. i have one of his pipes on my street bike. he was an endurance racing god.



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oh, and buy that and race it.

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Bike is only worth $50 but I'll toss you $100 if you bring it over to my house<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
 

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are you sure you are not thinking of kaz yoshima? I know he made a few 400/450s
Yeah, that sounds right. So sure, I'd buy it in a heartbeat, but he wants 6, and says it's worth lots more. Don't think I can swing that for a race bike...

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if it has hrc kit parts, it could have mag cases and all kinds of super trick parts. stuff you definitely would not want to beak because youd never be able to replace it. but it would do some killer parade laps. the real deal hrc stuff of the era is very very cool.

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Sorry, I shoulda been a little more specific, JD got it right, 6 grand. As in $6,000.00
I thought it would be sorta obvious when I said I couldn't swing that for a racebike, my mistake.

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I'm sure it is a nice bike but $6K is way outta line unless:

1) it is cherry. I mean eat off the inside of the pipes cherry.
2) It has HRC cases (magnesium or beryllium (sp?))
3) it uses a non stock frame
4) you have all the paperwork authenticating it as a Kaz OMT bike


Kaz was not the only one with big bore kits back then. Action Fours, Henry Abe, Pops yoshimura, and RC all had kits available for the 400f at one time or another. All pretty rare stuff but not as rare as one might think.

all this basically begs the question: do you have pics of the bike?

You want rare? A buddy's uncle has an rd350 with an rz350 top end (with liquid cooling), in a custom made road race frame with tracy bodywork. The motor was way wokred and before it was a street bike Dick Mann had use the bike in a few races and he had the paperwork to prove it (photos, etc). He couldn't get $6000 for that bike. It is only worth what someone is willing to pay, and jap bikes just aren't quite there yet. Although I would love someone to prove me wrong.
 

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quote:You want rare? A buddy's uncle has an rd350 with an rz350 top end (with liquid cooling), in a custom made road race frame with tracy bodywork. The motor was way wokred and before it was a street bike Dick Mann had use the bike in a few races and he had the paperwork to prove it (photos, etc). He couldn't get $6000 for that bike. It is only worth what someone is willing to pay, and jap bikes just aren't quite there yet. Although I would love someone to prove me wrong.
For a little while after his death, "ex-Barry Sheene" RG500s and TR750s were getting substantial money. Until people started counting and realized that if they all really were ex-Bazza machines, he would have started riding them when he was four and finished about a month after his death. There are a few factory Jap racers (with a LOT of documentation) that command big money but they were raced by someone famous, are as complete as a race bike can get, and change hands very infrequently. The Beale replica Honda 6's fetch a lot of money but given the pure unobtainium of the original bikes it's not surprising.

Last Saturday morning I took my T500 race chambers back to the builder to get them fine tuned to fit my bike. I spent some time looking at (okay, drooling over) the EIGHT Yamaha RZ750s (plus spares) awaiting fine tuning at his shop. Each is probably worth $12 to $18 grand (none of them were overly famous ex-racers) so there's one exception to race bike values.

Part of the problem is that most people don't see the point in paying high prices for that rare bit of factory race kit (or even a complete race bike) when you can walk into a new bike dealership and buy a liter class wonder that will out perform the baddest of the old race bikes. Hell, the 600s typically have more power than the race bikes did "back in the day". Then again, most people are idiots!

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jim,

i agree, most people are really fucking dumb.

however i'm drunk, and handsome!

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