[jbranson]

Well...sounds like Hiroshi/someone tried to tighten the head nuts on Hiroshi's bike to stop a leak in the head cover gasket. All the nuts were of course already tightened to max allowed torque for their size...so of course they pulled the threads out of the block at the bottom of the stud.
Which means Friday afternoon and evening I get to spend my time tearing down the whole top end of the engine to get to the base of the studs so I can install a helicoil. Should be able to get it done in about four hours. Wonder how many of the other studs are stripped out too. The freakin things were tightened to 15 ft/lbs already.
When will people learn you can't just through a wrench on these bikes and start doing shit unless you know what you're doing.
What a freakin pain in the ass...I was really looking forward to a relaxing weekend at the track.
JohnnyB

 

[imslow]

JOHN!! It wasn't me. I saw two people turning a wrench on that nut. H. was one of em. If you want the other guys description, I'll give it to you . . . but it won't make you any happier or change the outcome.

Bad sad news.

scott

 

[jbranson]

Scott,
I think the problem happened before that. Hiroshi, took the bike out for a few laps and then came in, it had a leak so he tightened all the nuts...went back out again...when he came back in one of the nuts was off...meaning the engine got hot, popped the threads out of the block because it was too tight. After that I guess a few people came around for a "feel" of what the nut was like. At that point it was already trashed I'm sure.

No one said it was you bro I know you know better anyway. It's Hiroshi's bike, he's responsible for who touches it.
JohnnyB

 

[bfd]

JohnnyB
Sorry to hear about the extent of the damage. They were parked next to us but the damage must have been done as I never saw the bike run.

If I can help in any way I'd be happy to. Don't know if I have any parts you may need but let me know. We'll be parked in the infield as our normal spot gets commandeered by the Baers collection of big trailers.
bfd

 

[jbranson]

I've resigned myself to dropping the engine, pulling the head and cylinders. The part I dread is the timing chain, it can be a real pain in the ass on a sloper.

I was informed that they weren't tightened "too much" but...how do you explain to someone that ANY tightening was too much as they are already properly torqued. I even put engine side covers on with a torque wrench.

All because it probably has a stray piece of gasket in the head cover. If there is a leak in a flat cover on a flat head with eight freakin 15 ft/lb bolts holding it down...it's not because it's not tight enough, it's because there is a problem somewhere.
I'm almost through bitching...give me another day.
JohnnyB

 

[imslow]

by the way. I was never convinced that that was where the leak was coming from. There was oil on the left ex pipe, down the fins of the left barrel, and looked like there was oil down the front of the left cam cover . . . not to make things worse, but I didn;t see a LOT of oil coming from the valve cover. I got on the old knees and looked things over, and there was a film of oil over all of the above. (there was a drop the size of a dime on the ex. pipe.) I walked away when folks started pointing to the cover and saying it was the cover . . .

 

[n/a]

YEA, what Scott said (cause I was there). And thats the way it really was!!!
Damn ROOKIES..............



Champ

 

[aaron]

So the Champ then pulled out his Metric adjustable and then went to work.

Aaron

 

[n/a]

Aaron,

It was an SAE adjustable and when I rounded off the nuts I used vise grips and it still didn't fix the oil leak.

Champ

 

[imslow]

champ was wearing his work clothes.

too clean.

I didnt recognize him.

scprr

 

[joe c]

i always use the best, a whitworth. or my very rare british standard adjustable.

jc

 

[UngaWunga]

quote:
It was an SAE adjustable and when I rounded off the nuts I used vise grips and it still didn't fix the oil leak.

Remember, if a hammer can't fix it, its an electrical problem...

 

[n/a]

Rob,

Thanks for the tip!!!


Champ

 

[jbranson]

Looks like the bike has some striped cylinder stud holes...

I'll be tearing down the engine Friday afternoon/night, all the way down to the cases to get at the base of the cylinder studs.

I'll expect my 175 Posse to be there...hopefully in a garage somewhere.
JohnnyB

 

[n/a]

Johnny,
Should I bring the adjustable,vise grips, hammer and maybe a ohm meter?

I don't mind helping!!!



Champ

 

[aaron]

Just bring your knowledge, I assume you'll be needing a thimble.

Aaron

 

[imslow]

champ you were just dissed by aaron.

 

[n/a]

Scotty,

I would expect nothing but, coming from Aaron!!!


Champ

 

[jbranson]

I'm glad all of you think my Nightmare thread is a freakin jokefest. Ain't nobody laughin at JohnnyB's house let me tell you.
JohnnyB

 

[UngaWunga]

quote:
I'm glad all of you think my Nightmare thread is a freakin jokefest. Ain't nobody laughin at JohnnyB's house let me tell you.

Laugh it up, Bitch, hese are the jokes!

I like having friends that fuck up. They make me feel better about myself and serve as a warning as to what NOT to do...

Kindof like that snowblower "incident". Your pictures saved MY fingers.