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Just got my newsletter and after reading the rules changes. I don't understand why they are putting the MT125R Honda in the LWSV when the ULWSV class was designed for the MT.

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Just got my newsletter and after reading the rules changes. I don't understand why they are putting the MT125R Honda in the LWSV when the ULWSV class was designed for the MT.

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Because they are faster than most 250's and outside the years that are allowed.

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Hey I bought a bike at the end of last season to race in Big Singles that isn't eligible now. I don't try to understand the rules anymore, I just try to keep up with them.

MTs should be in ULT. It was probably a peformance index thing. Although Turk and Martin running MTs is different then other people running MTs.

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Last year the only "real" ULWSV bikes running were Turk now and then, Marty maybe once, Champ on his new bike. Turk and Marty started running in LWSV (and placing top three) because there was no one to run against in ULWSV. I think it was a grid size thing. Most of the bikes in ULWSV were 200gp or 250gp bikes.
A lot of the 200gp bikes were running in 200gp, 250gp and ULWSV in the same day.
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250GP isn't allowed in ULWSV only LWSV. So basically ULWSV is a bump class for 200GP.

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Last year I though ULWSV was the bump class for 250gp along with 350gp...or at least it should be. The MT's are kind of screwing up the speed index. You have Turk that's just plain fast, and Marty who is fast and weighs 120 lbs.
But realistically...ULWSV times are about 3-4 seconds quicker than the fastest 200gp times. Not sure about 250gp...I'd guess the fast 250 guys are about the same as ULWSV?
As is usual with classes that don't have a lot of bikes in them, it mostly depends on who shows up at what race. Judging the ULWSV speeds by Turk and Marty might not be the best way to decide how fast a class is as a whole.
Champ, you can still run your 250 in 250 and 250 right? And your ULWSV in ULWSV and LWSV? That's not too bad.
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back when i was a newb and i only had the derbi 73cc racer, eve used to let me bump into ulsv for an extra race. i always came in last, but it was cool to have something to race in other than the 3 laps of 50cc......

uscra is cool cause they are flexible.

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There are lots of early 70's machines like the Yamaha RD200 that make good racers and fit into ULSV. The earlier machines are getting scarce and pricy. My RD 200 runs pretty good even with stock carbs and mufflers. All you need is lock wire and Cheng shin $40 tires to start racing.

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I assume ULWSV is two stroke only? They make no mention of four strokes in the class.... cause I got some ideas you know.
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"Ultralightweight Supervintage:
Up to 200cc-single or twin 2-stroke air-cooled engine from approved list "

See...that says two stroke...no mention of four strokes...and I've never seen the approved list.
It's kind of a cool class, very specific, just need more people running in it. I'd hate to see it become another "run what you brung" class...even though I like to bump into it. The MT's, TA's and such are real race bikes, nice that they have their own class....just need more people to get them out of the living room and on to the race track.
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350s and 250s werew allowed in ULT.

They removed 350s, 250s are still allowed.

They'll probably remove them, once I finish my 250.

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Edited by - aaron on Apr 01 2007 10:15:55 AM
 

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350s and 250s werew allowed in ULT.

They removed 350s, 250s are still allowed.

They'll probably remove them, once I finish my 250.

Aaron
It's a 200cc class. Johnny Bravo noticed a mistake in the bump-up chart that said it was a bump-up for 250GP. The chart was supposed to be changed.
Bravo's 250 isn't as fast as the 200 anyway so we should probably let him run.
BTW now that he won the ULSV, by default, he told me he's retiring it.
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So your saying its not a bump for 250gp? But was never changed in the rule book. So how does one know this or prevent building a bike for the class or any class for that matter.

This is the second time this year this happened to me.

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>>>>BTW now that he won the ULSV, by default, he told me he's retiring it.<<<<<<

That did it Camelhairy. I just took the TA off the shelf and will defend my defaulted Championship and when I win it again, I'll piss in your helmet!!


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Edited by - 250gpchamp on Apr 01 2007 1:09:04 PM
 

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That means 250gp bikes can only bump into 350gp? Kind of a big bump. Of course Roper manages it. They should let 250 bump into FCB...nahhh...that would be embarrassing for the 350's.
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