Vintage Bultaco's for sale

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rich46

Discussion Starter · Jul 1, 2020

A nice lady who contacted me has a pair of these Bultaco's that were the pride of her husband. The reason she even pinged me was because she knew I had an interest in the two wheel beasts. She also didn't know at my age it was mostly street motorbikes but anyway I'm passing this along to all of you just in case some one on the Forum may have an interest.
Her husband has passed away and she would like to get rid of the two bikes. Both are Cenmotos ? or Pursangs ?

1974: Works Shock, no leaking from oil leaking nor from pressure blow-by from the engine'
Forks may be leaking a wee bit and fender looks Non-OEM
1969; Is perfect Betor shock, no leaks, perfect paint, new chain. Complete restoration done by a pro.

I went over both motorbikes they are nice and best of all the woman has all the paperwork that her anal husband was keeping on what he had done and spent on the pair.

Anyone interested or know someone that may be interested hit me back and I'll put together pictures and talk about a price for one or the both.

Rich

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rich46

Discussion Starter · #4 · Jul 1, 2020

TrialsRider said:
Cemoto is the company, Pursang is the model, they are full on go fast MX bikes, likely with a close ration gearbox.
Cool! Not many people have the balls to ride them any more.

What's the displacement? Yellow # plate is likely 360cc Green # Plate likely 250cc

The motorbikes are located in Northern California and seem to both be 250 cc's, I'll find out for sure and get back to you. Sure are nice considering the age and that they were ridden not just museum pieces.

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rich46

Discussion Starter · #5 · Jul 1, 2020

rich46 said:
The motorbikes are located in Northern California and seem to both be 250 cc's, I'll find out for sure and get back to you. Sure are nice considering the age and that they were ridden not just museum pieces.

I did check with the nice lady who has them and I was correct they're both 250 cc's.
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rich46

Discussion Starter · #7 · Jul 1, 2020

TrialsRider said:
Nice bikes, you should make them look totally mint and sell them for about 4000 great big american $ each.
Or ride them, that would be very cool, go ride them in his honour.

I've done Barstow to Vegas in years gone by. Road Racing is now my interest. These motorbikes belong to a nice lady who is a friend of a friend. I just said that I'd put out the word that they are up for sale. Some dealer in Napa, Ca offered her $4000 for the two. Not a right price when the '69 is in as new condition.

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rich46

Discussion Starter · #9 · Jul 2, 2020

TrialsRider said:
lol It's the right price, if you want them at half market value.

Yep, when she ask me what I thought they were worth I looked at some hammer prices over the last few years. Now I have no idea in this time and place but over the last few auctions motorbike about the same as the 1969 have gone for as much as 9 K so 4 K for the pair....not so much.

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rich46

Discussion Starter · #13 · Jul 2, 2020

TrialsRider said:
My theoretical prices were based on a very nice complete bike,
not the rode it around the farm and parked it in the barn type bike

can get one of those for 1500 canadian$

Pretty much what I told her. My wife and I went up and looked them over. I think she just wants them and the memories gone but the son wants her to get top price. I on the other hand wish someone besides me was involved as I have Road Race bikes to prepare and don't really know squat about these things.

As my wife said to me "this is another fine mess you've got yourself into" so I'll do what I can to help and hope someone with love in their heart and money in their pocket comes along.

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rich46

Discussion Starter · #15 · Jul 2, 2020

TrialsRider said:
Good Pictures of the bikes would be a good start, if the owners can't bring themselves to do at least that, then they can forget about ever seeing top market dollar. Then suddenly an offer of half market value is not unreasonable. You would be doing them a huge service just to document them.

Wife took some pic's just need to get them out there. She's been swamped with work as the work from home is just not as efficient as life in times pasted. I will get them out there ASAP'

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rich46

Discussion Starter · #17 · Jul 3, 2020

woodsman said:
There must be a top notch Bultaco restorer in California, maybe several. They may be able to give/get the best price with the least hassle to the seller. You have what looks like good records and well kept bikes. They' have time and facilities to sort and spit shine, if worth it, and Bultaco buyers.

From what I've been told the 1969 has been restored by a top drawer restorer here in N Calif. He may have retired now but I was told that the bikes were done at a vintage motorbike shop in either Napa or Sonoma. I don't know much about these machines so I can't address if it is concourse level (here I mean where the factory did something like sticker badly that was carried thru to the restoration) I only know that at least the '69 is a pretty motorbike. Frankly the paint looked better than I remember new Tacos looking in my youth.

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rich46

Discussion Starter · #19 · Jul 3, 2020

TrialsRider said:
Pursang was nice

I liked the1968 El Bandito 360 even better this is what a concourse quality Bultaco looks like:

That's kind of the look of the one I saw. That is except that it had been sitting in garage since the owner died and it's not staged like this one with the polished tires and the ground being wet down.
LOL All I really remember is doing a desert event and the guy I was with had to lay his Bultaco on it's side and kick it that way to get it to start. It was faster the snot but what a pain.

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rich46

Discussion Starter · #21 · Jul 4, 2020

TrialsRider said:
Oh ya man, you have to stage her and wet her down all nice! if you don't have a mountain background a hot Bultaco chick will do.

If my money was worth 35% more then yours right now, I would want to buy one.

LOL she could come up with the mountain background and some wine vineyards even but then I would need to drive up there and take the pictures.

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rich46

Discussion Starter · #23 · Jul 5, 2020

TrialsRider said:
If you happen to find one of these I want it:

Will keep my eyes out. Description if you please.

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rich46

Discussion Starter · #24 · Jul 5, 2020

This is the shot I took. I'm sending a photographer friend up to take the money shots after the owner's son cleans it up.

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rich46

Discussion Starter · #27 · Jul 8, 2020

Tanshanomi said:
Model/Frame numbers?

I think it's called a Pursang and I'll get back to you with frame numbers

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rich46

Discussion Starter · #29 · Jul 9, 2020

Tanshanomi said:
There were a lot of Pursang models. If the colors are original, I can narrow down it down quite a bit. I'd guess the front one is a Model 68. The one behind it is very likely 360cc's, either a Model 121 or 136. A Pursang 250 of that era would've come in blue with white number plates. The first two or three digits of the frame and engine numbers should tell you the model.

OK my friend here the only numbers she could give me. Somewhere I may have screen shots of the engine numbers and I'll send them along when I have more time
1969 B4802032
1974 HB12101251

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rich46

Discussion Starter · #31 · Jul 10, 2020

Tanshanomi said:
The Model 48 (front one) is a Pursang 250 Mk 3.
The Model 121 in the rear is a Pursang 360 Mk 7.
Bultaco didn't actually specify model years, but the years you listed are generally correct, probably accurately reflecting when they were first sold/titled.

Well from your expertise I have learned something. Thank you very much for that I'll let the owner know that. At least she will know what she's got. I still think that mostly she wants the memories and the motorbikes gone .
Rich

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rich46

Discussion Starter · #34 · Aug 28, 2020

RonnieETsang said:
WOW it looks very cool!

Both are nice motorbikes. Lady just wanted them gone. Don't even know if she still has them.

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