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it was great! weather was perfect, 65 and sunny. racing was great fun. i chased tt right off the track! it was great fun. i hate that hill! if tt doesnt update, i will tomorrow. in the words of bruce brown, "you guys really missed it" it made me remember why i hate and love racing at vir. 10secs off my best lap times from last time i raced there. thanks tt! and cmarsh too!
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Yeah Joe!!!!! Hows the new ride? I heard TT made good but I won't be a spoiler.
C'mon give us details...
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C'mon give us details...
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folks-
what a race track...perfect surface, crazy fun topography, mind effing corners, really fast. i had a hoot. the only dissapointment was the small grids so more of you gotta make summit next month, but clancypants and i had some fun. and it's a huge help when someone like MikeO is there without his bike to help me find mistakes...so i kept him busy.
so yeah, it's an amazing track. i didn't roll in until 3am so they held me at the gate and i couldn't sleep but that helped keep me from getting too wound up. out in practice, the down hill "roller coaster" was the only place that came to me naturally. i left a lot of speed on braking in T1 all day long, T3 screwed with me most of the time and i was slow into and up the hill and should have gone a lot faster through T8 and T9. 350GP was my best race running somewhere between Roper and Joe. V3 was a lonely practice session and my brain was fried by 500GP. funniest thing... midway through 500GP i just plain forgot where i was (thought i was already in the chute for T4 but was in the middle of T3)so i cooked the T3 exit and ran out into the grass, the bike stayed with me so i checked my shoulder to come back on, and just as i'm coming back, joe follows my line through the grass. mikeO was right there, but mercifully wasn't rolling film. my best lap was 2.06 and and i'll be happy when i get to 2.00, damn i wish we had two races there/season.
best part of the trip was joe's fresh rosemary chicken saturday night, thanks again.
summit bitches-
tt
Edited by - ttilghman on Mar 12 2007 09:41:53 AM
what a race track...perfect surface, crazy fun topography, mind effing corners, really fast. i had a hoot. the only dissapointment was the small grids so more of you gotta make summit next month, but clancypants and i had some fun. and it's a huge help when someone like MikeO is there without his bike to help me find mistakes...so i kept him busy.
so yeah, it's an amazing track. i didn't roll in until 3am so they held me at the gate and i couldn't sleep but that helped keep me from getting too wound up. out in practice, the down hill "roller coaster" was the only place that came to me naturally. i left a lot of speed on braking in T1 all day long, T3 screwed with me most of the time and i was slow into and up the hill and should have gone a lot faster through T8 and T9. 350GP was my best race running somewhere between Roper and Joe. V3 was a lonely practice session and my brain was fried by 500GP. funniest thing... midway through 500GP i just plain forgot where i was (thought i was already in the chute for T4 but was in the middle of T3)so i cooked the T3 exit and ran out into the grass, the bike stayed with me so i checked my shoulder to come back on, and just as i'm coming back, joe follows my line through the grass. mikeO was right there, but mercifully wasn't rolling film. my best lap was 2.06 and and i'll be happy when i get to 2.00, damn i wish we had two races there/season.
best part of the trip was joe's fresh rosemary chicken saturday night, thanks again.
summit bitches-
tt
Edited by - ttilghman on Mar 12 2007 09:41:53 AM
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Tim, i will be at NHIS in June for FIM. The taj mahal will be set up so you'll have your own room in the tent to crash. I'll have it all set up for when you roll in from Summit.
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fuck. well, lets see. where do i start. tim was right on with the grids. id say small enough to not even justify them. but thats what made them fun. 5 bikes entered in 350 and 500. one guy didnt show for the weekend (a pre-entry), one guy bailed in 350 on the first lap, and one guy dns'd the 500 race. in v2 there were only 2 bikes entered. so there were 5 of us on the track! in 350 i think there were only 5 bikes entered. but maybe 5 in v1 and just 1 or 2 in f-500. 2 guys crashed out of the 350 race on the first lap. one guy in t3 and he broke a collar bone. he went off right in front of me and i thought he was going to save it. 30 bikes on the 350gp grid would be awesome.
i rode chris' bike again and i gotta say a fast track like vir suits that bike superbly. even the small amount of chatter i got in t-2, the hairpin exit was easily ridable. hitting the gas harder didnt bother the bike at all. for any of you who think you have your bikes sorted, try riding one thats been proven. i could never appreciate it til this weekend.
im definitely still learning the track and chris bike made it alot easier. i was definitely faster at points on the track than tt. but, he was way faster going down the hill. my line was totally fucked and he took advantage every chance. but my drive out of the last 2 corners meant he didnt stand a chance and when i was even close to him out of the last corners, i had him easily by start finish. so i had my plan in place. hold him off as long as he was willing to wait, then hang with him, then pounce on the last lap or 2. well, tim got by on the hill on the first or second lap but i was right with him til the white flag, when the bike started crapping out. i was screwing with the plug wires, and choke and petcock on the front straight and it wouldnt run any better. i tried to carry as much speed as possible into the next 3 corners thinking i had to have it to get to the end. (the motor was dropping off quick!) tim ran into t3 and ran off. i, in my great thought process, thought more speed to make it to the end of the race, overcooked it and did the same thinng about 150' behind him! of course then all i though was, "i hope he crashes now" of course he collected it up and got back going. i will say the runoff at vir is nice and smooth! as soon as i hit the track the motor about died. i got going again and made it up to the top of the roller coaster where the motor did die. i drifted over the top of hte hil and check the gas tank to see if it had gas. had gas in it. so i drifted down the roller coaster and tried to bump it. it wouldnt go. so i drifted with as much speed as i could gain down the hill and made it back onto the front straight with the field going by on their cool off. i made it to the pit in road and it wouldnt go any further. i started to push but noticed the riders school race on the hot grid and stopped and turned around and pushed behind the wall. then tim came rolling in. i pushed the bike to the pits parked it, and figured it was dead. we tossed some ideas around, i checked the plugs and we just kinda let it sit. on the way home i started to think about how it was running. dumping one cyl, going ok, then really crapping, then going, then just totally dying. (whats it sound like to you???) since its not my bike, i didnt realize chris still had the gas reserve hooked up. (i dont on my race bike) and while riding the bike, i couldnt tell if it was on, off, or on reserve while i was screwing with it. so on the 5 hour drive home i had alot of time to think about it. i hadnt moved the petcock. so i unloaded it this morning, set the petcock where i had been racing it and pulled the fuel line. no gas. yeah yeah i know. always have enough gas. but the thing that screwed me was the fact the chris' gastank is cut almost in half. because of frame braces. when you look inside it, it looks penty full. but if its half full visually, its only a 1/4 full. and thats what happened. so reserve, and not enough gas to begin with. sucked. sucked even more cuz i was right with tim and i think it would have been a really really good finish.
i think i could shave another 5 secs of my times there. i need to be better on the hill, better down the back shoot, and a little faster up the hill. my fastest lap of the weekend was 10secs faster than my previous fastest laps though. that freakin brake on chris' bike is too good. when you think youre over cooking the corners, and are afraid to toss it in, you realize youre going in waaay too slow. also, on occasions when i thought i was going to overshoot, i could just throw it in and just hold the brake gently to the apex, then gas it. something ive never been able to do on my bike. and ive never riden a bike that sqirmed like that when on the brakes that hard. i guess i mean, i dont think ive ever used a brake that hard. hard enough to make the thing outta whack. pretty cool.
anyway, it was a real fun weekend. the weather was awesome, and now we have a race weekend up on you guys. and im out for some payback at summit. i cant wait to do it again tt.
jc
Edited by - joe c on Mar 12 2007 9:02:00 PM
i rode chris' bike again and i gotta say a fast track like vir suits that bike superbly. even the small amount of chatter i got in t-2, the hairpin exit was easily ridable. hitting the gas harder didnt bother the bike at all. for any of you who think you have your bikes sorted, try riding one thats been proven. i could never appreciate it til this weekend.
im definitely still learning the track and chris bike made it alot easier. i was definitely faster at points on the track than tt. but, he was way faster going down the hill. my line was totally fucked and he took advantage every chance. but my drive out of the last 2 corners meant he didnt stand a chance and when i was even close to him out of the last corners, i had him easily by start finish. so i had my plan in place. hold him off as long as he was willing to wait, then hang with him, then pounce on the last lap or 2. well, tim got by on the hill on the first or second lap but i was right with him til the white flag, when the bike started crapping out. i was screwing with the plug wires, and choke and petcock on the front straight and it wouldnt run any better. i tried to carry as much speed as possible into the next 3 corners thinking i had to have it to get to the end. (the motor was dropping off quick!) tim ran into t3 and ran off. i, in my great thought process, thought more speed to make it to the end of the race, overcooked it and did the same thinng about 150' behind him! of course then all i though was, "i hope he crashes now" of course he collected it up and got back going. i will say the runoff at vir is nice and smooth! as soon as i hit the track the motor about died. i got going again and made it up to the top of the roller coaster where the motor did die. i drifted over the top of hte hil and check the gas tank to see if it had gas. had gas in it. so i drifted down the roller coaster and tried to bump it. it wouldnt go. so i drifted with as much speed as i could gain down the hill and made it back onto the front straight with the field going by on their cool off. i made it to the pit in road and it wouldnt go any further. i started to push but noticed the riders school race on the hot grid and stopped and turned around and pushed behind the wall. then tim came rolling in. i pushed the bike to the pits parked it, and figured it was dead. we tossed some ideas around, i checked the plugs and we just kinda let it sit. on the way home i started to think about how it was running. dumping one cyl, going ok, then really crapping, then going, then just totally dying. (whats it sound like to you???) since its not my bike, i didnt realize chris still had the gas reserve hooked up. (i dont on my race bike) and while riding the bike, i couldnt tell if it was on, off, or on reserve while i was screwing with it. so on the 5 hour drive home i had alot of time to think about it. i hadnt moved the petcock. so i unloaded it this morning, set the petcock where i had been racing it and pulled the fuel line. no gas. yeah yeah i know. always have enough gas. but the thing that screwed me was the fact the chris' gastank is cut almost in half. because of frame braces. when you look inside it, it looks penty full. but if its half full visually, its only a 1/4 full. and thats what happened. so reserve, and not enough gas to begin with. sucked. sucked even more cuz i was right with tim and i think it would have been a really really good finish.
i think i could shave another 5 secs of my times there. i need to be better on the hill, better down the back shoot, and a little faster up the hill. my fastest lap of the weekend was 10secs faster than my previous fastest laps though. that freakin brake on chris' bike is too good. when you think youre over cooking the corners, and are afraid to toss it in, you realize youre going in waaay too slow. also, on occasions when i thought i was going to overshoot, i could just throw it in and just hold the brake gently to the apex, then gas it. something ive never been able to do on my bike. and ive never riden a bike that sqirmed like that when on the brakes that hard. i guess i mean, i dont think ive ever used a brake that hard. hard enough to make the thing outta whack. pretty cool.
anyway, it was a real fun weekend. the weather was awesome, and now we have a race weekend up on you guys. and im out for some payback at summit. i cant wait to do it again tt.
jc
Edited by - joe c on Mar 12 2007 9:02:00 PM
....and all this with my motard track gearing. 
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TT,
Is this going to be your new strategy? No sleep before every race? Seems to work for you.
Joe, I have an old tank lying around, I could rivet some backpack straps on it for you! It's like a back protector and a reserve tank in one!
or, How about a fannypack with a can of starting fluid?
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...anyway, sounds like you guys had a blast. TT, I'll be up for testing soon. Joe, drag yo ass out of B'more MORE this year, and what happened to the 'NEW' bike?
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Is this going to be your new strategy? No sleep before every race? Seems to work for you.
Joe, I have an old tank lying around, I could rivet some backpack straps on it for you! It's like a back protector and a reserve tank in one!
or, How about a fannypack with a can of starting fluid?
...anyway, sounds like you guys had a blast. TT, I'll be up for testing soon. Joe, drag yo ass out of B'more MORE this year, and what happened to the 'NEW' bike?
BORN TO LURK, FORCED TO WORK.
www.NYCvinMoto.com
www.VinMoto.org
scott-
there were tons of moderns there, so WERA seems sure to go back to VIR, but the vintage grids were aniemic so i suppose classes could start dropping off. but then WERA runs these classes all over the country? but yeah, you guys gotta get your asses out next year for whatever reason. actually screw next year, get to summit this year.
-tt
there were tons of moderns there, so WERA seems sure to go back to VIR, but the vintage grids were aniemic so i suppose classes could start dropping off. but then WERA runs these classes all over the country? but yeah, you guys gotta get your asses out next year for whatever reason. actually screw next year, get to summit this year.
-tt
rosko-
you don't need much sleep when everybody else stays home. the track was great, and joe kept me motivated, but i still can't wait until there are 350s all over the track and a few more people to run with. a lot of bikes could have fit in the 90 seconds between roper and i.
-tt
Edited by - ttilghman on Mar 14 2007 1:15:41 PM
you don't need much sleep when everybody else stays home. the track was great, and joe kept me motivated, but i still can't wait until there are 350s all over the track and a few more people to run with. a lot of bikes could have fit in the 90 seconds between roper and i.
-tt
Edited by - ttilghman on Mar 14 2007 1:15:41 PM
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