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I'm wondering what some of you guys might have done to solve this problem. I can't think of anything worse than building an awesome fuckin' seat only to have to throw some ugly ass, clunky eye sore of a light on it just to be street legal. From what i've seen so far of most "low profile" accessories, they all pretty much destroy the look of almost any seat cowling.

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you could go to yer local wal mart around christmas time and pick up some christmas lights and put them wherever you want to...they come in all kindsa pretty colors....tell us what ya come up with....
 

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you could go to yer local wal mart around christmas time and pick up some christmas lights and put them wherever you want to...they come in all kindsa pretty colors....tell us what ya come up with....
 

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You might not be able to easily find a motorcycle part that looks good, There are some good lights/plate mounts in one out there but if that is not what you are looking for you can always look at lights for transport trucks and trailers. You may even be able to buy strips of LED's and use a few of those as you could mold them to the contour of the seat, Check for any lights in magazines for hot rods as well

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You might not be able to easily find a motorcycle part that looks good, There are some good lights/plate mounts in one out there but if that is not what you are looking for you can always look at lights for transport trucks and trailers. You may even be able to buy strips of LED's and use a few of those as you could mold them to the contour of the seat, Check for any lights in magazines for hot rods as well

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a good starting point may be taking a rear end view picture (of the bike...) and xeroxing (b&w) the print as big as you can...11X17...at least 8 1/2X11 a bunch of times and sketching (fast) shapes in red pencil or crayon, or sharpie what ever, which look good to you. (a small circle, a large circle, a trapezoid, 3 dots making a triangle, 3, 4, 5, dots in line etc.) that will let you know if you are doing l.e.d.s or retro fiting an existing unit of some sort. then do the same with a side view picture to figure out how it contours to the seat or fender. sounds to me you are going to be pickey about the result so you may need to make the whole thing. if it has to only deal with the seat, what is/are the material(s) involved? (will the light unit pop out of fibreglass/paint or upholstry? heck make a design contest out of it on caferacer...though there'e nothing worse than design by commitee. l.e.d.s are wicked versitile but don't have the vintage look if that's what you're after. just a few thoughts. i won't go on and on...
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Edited by - parks61 on Apr 16 2007 5:07:22 PM
 

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a good starting point may be taking a rear end view picture (of the bike...) and xeroxing (b&w) the print as big as you can...11X17...at least 8 1/2X11 a bunch of times and sketching (fast) shapes in red pencil or crayon, or sharpie what ever, which look good to you. (a small circle, a large circle, a trapezoid, 3 dots making a triangle, 3, 4, 5, dots in line etc.) that will let you know if you are doing l.e.d.s or retro fiting an existing unit of some sort. then do the same with a side view picture to figure out how it contours to the seat or fender. sounds to me you are going to be pickey about the result so you may need to make the whole thing. if it has to only deal with the seat, what is/are the material(s) involved? (will the light unit pop out of fibreglass/paint or upholstry? heck make a design contest out of it on caferacer...though there'e nothing worse than design by commitee. l.e.d.s are wicked versitile but don't have the vintage look if that's what you're after. just a few thoughts. i won't go on and on...
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Sounds like you have done this before Parks, I need to use that idea next time I am in a bind

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Sounds like you have done this before Parks, I need to use that idea next time I am in a bind

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The Hayabusa tail light by itself has a nice rounded shape that looks like it would work well with a bumstop.





And if you shop ebay carefully, you can pick one up with the bulbs, wiring, and brackets for less than $20.

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The Hayabusa tail light by itself has a nice rounded shape that looks like it would work well with a bumstop.





And if you shop ebay carefully, you can pick one up with the bulbs, wiring, and brackets for less than $20.

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yeah they are too good to be true because they are too freakin small. Seriously you are asking for a ticket if you use those as brake lights.

You could flushmount an led taillight. There are plenty of street rod companies out there that sell taillights that are ment to be flushmounted into rounded fenders and it doesn't seem like it would be that hard to me to do the same with a cafe bumstop.

take a look at someplace like this:

http://www.ledtaillights.com/

I have to ask, what bike is this going on? I am working on a flushmounted taillight for my cb900F where I use a stock zx10 taillight and have found a way to intergrate the turnsignals. So far I am into the setup for 20.
 

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it's for a 'glass seat i'm laying up. i'm gonna run it by a close deputy friend of mine to see what i can reasonably get away with. michigan vehicle code is horribly vague like that. i do know you poor suckas out east have it much worse than we do...at least in terms of codes and requirements. you don't even need winkers in michigan...regardless of whether or not your bike came with 'em. do you guys need two mirrors too?

the same company that's selling that tiny pair in that link also sells banks of three. i don't see why i couldn't also just use as many as necessary to meet any wattage requirement i might find.



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it's for a 'glass seat i'm laying up. i'm gonna run it by a close deputy friend of mine to see what i can reasonably get away with. michigan vehicle code is horribly vague like that. i do know you poor suckas out east have it much worse than we do...at least in terms of codes and requirements. you don't even need winkers in michigan...regardless of whether or not your bike came with 'em. do you guys need two mirrors too?

the same company that's selling that tiny pair in that link also sells banks of three. i don't see why i couldn't also just use as many as necessary to meet any wattage requirement i might find.



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The Taillight standard is the national DOT standard, so Any DOT approved taillight will work. Any vehcile pre-DOT standards can use what was factory stock or period for the time.

That being said, the standard I usually go by is 1) is it as big as an 1157 bulb? and 2) is there decent surface area to tell the difference between brake and taillight from 100 yards back? Surface area of the lens makes a big difference in being able to tell the difference from far back, my optomologist friend explained it to me once but I wasn't listening...something about rods, cones and inverse reflection.

Personally, I do not understand why people want to put the smallest taillight they can find on their bikes. Bikes are invisible enough, why make it harder for the cages to see our safety lights? I don't mind doing without signals, there are plenty of bikes out there without them and before the 70's bikes did not come with them, but to reduce the brake light size to me just seems stupid.

This is going to sound kinda funny, but what about generic truck and trailer lights? Many of them are flush mounted, they are LEDs, they are not that expensive at truck stops, and you could mount it under the seat instead of in it.

How about being creative with other lights (you can get LEDs to replace 1157 bulbs)? MY cafe cb750f uses some swap meet turn signals with red lenses as the taillights. Both work as running and taillight and I think they look kinda cool. There are all sorts of harley style Signal lights that would look cool as this (HD now does this on their new sportster the nightster).



I have been toying with the idea of replacing the lenses with 1959 caddillac taillights, just so it looks way more out there, like I have afterburners at night and shit like that.

As long as you are laying up the glass yourself, why not take a page from the 1950's hot rodder tricks and french a round taillight in there. Mooneyes has a ton of vintage style taillight assemblies you can french into the back (everything from rat fink to 50 pontiac) and even sells the recessed buckets to do it.

I have always loved these 40 ford taillights and at $30 from mooneyes they are a good deal:



here is a neat one for $40 that you can use as a motorcycle tailight and mount under the bubble, it even has a light for the plate:
http://www.mooneyesusa.com/catalog/...d=860&osCsid=325794d64ff7db6c1502ab06caf55476

Edited by - Geeto67 on Apr 17 2007 4:30:32 PM
 

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Truck lights are a good idea (and since you're such a nice boy, free). Some of the marker lights on our trucks are only about 2" in diameter & 1/2" thick. Would look cool flush mounted in the back of your seat. I'll grab one from work for ya' tomorrow. Might not be 100% legal, but I doubt that's your primary concern.



Edited by - judeyramone on Apr 17 2007 5:22:43 PM
 

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Hey Geeto,

What diameter are the lenses on your 750f and how do they mount? I have a couple of sets of cone lenses that might fit.

As for the '59 Caddy lenses, repros can be had on ebay for $20-30 and that includes the chrome bezel that fits at the base of the lense.

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